Why don't Omega make calendar watches?

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Zman4eva

·Feb 15, 2024

Lately, calendar watches have caught my attention and I'm looking to add one to my collection. The usual brands come up when I search for annual or perpetual calendars (IWC, JLC, Patek, etc.). What I noticed was the lack of offerings from Omega. I search for vintage and modern offerings and the most I can find are the triple date moonphases (ie - 2471, 2473, 2606) and various Speedmasters with day/date. While those are great watches, they don't scratch the calendar itch compared to JLC's 140.2.80 or Patek's 3940 (pics below for your reference). Surely it's not because they don't have the technical know-how. They have a De Ville tourbillon on their website.

So I ask, why don't Omega make calendar watches? Are they sticking to their roots as a tool watchmaker? Is the market for calendar watches too small? Is the Swatch Group restricting Omega to only divers and chronographs?

Wild guesses welcomed.

Btw, I'm seriously considering these two watches since they're on the smaller size at 36mm (Patek) and 37mm (JLC). Let me know what you think of them as well.

Jaeger LeCoultre 140.2.80

Patek 3940J

 

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Watch my Whisky

·Feb 15, 2024

It’s an entry level brand.

 

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Evitzee

·Feb 15, 2024

Neither does a direct competitor, Rolex. Just market decisions. They both make an annual calendar, though.

 

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DenisChalandier

·Feb 15, 2024

Hard mouvement to develop to sells few watches. Omega is still a mass producer. And a lots of problems with defects and all to deal with.

Lots of pain, no gain. Easier to put a dog on a Speed dial to sell very much more 😀

 

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Pastorbottle

·Feb 16, 2024

They probably can’t be arsed…..too much trouble for to few sales

 

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ErichPryde

·Feb 16, 2024·Seamasters Forever

Other than that fantastic JLC you have there, JLC Master Control Calendar all the way.

Edit: or the geographic in pink gold. This thing is hot.

Edited: Feb 16, 2024

 

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rootbeer7

·Feb 16, 2024

Other brands in Swatch group for complications. And that JLC is superb.

 

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p4ul

·Feb 16, 2024

Wouldn’t want either. I want a watch to see the constantly changing time, if I don’t know what day it is it’s time to book myself into the home.

 

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ghce

·Feb 16, 2024

Well there is always the competition.

I must admit that the above JLC and PP don't do a lot for me though normally I love the JLC triple date moon phase.

 

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Pvt-Public

·Feb 16, 2024

Any particular reason the date needs to be displayed twice?

 

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YY77

·Feb 16, 2024

Pvt-Public

Any particular reason the date needs to be displayed twice?

The top one refers to the year.

 

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santoshlv426

·Feb 16, 2024

The JLC is beautiful. I'd like to own a JLC one day !

 

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Pvt-Public

·Feb 16, 2024

YY77

The top one refers to the year.

Thank you. Only 0425 here and I already learned something. I guess I can call it a day. 👍

 

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theluckyluke

·Feb 16, 2024

The JLC is beautiful. I have never owned a perpetual calendar. Wondering how hardcore it is to adjust to correct settings!

 

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Donn Chambers

·Feb 16, 2024

Omega has made a perpetual calendar before, I think back in the early 90s as (you guessed it) a limited edition Speedmaster:

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/planet-omega/60th-anniversary-speedmaster/perpetual-calendar-1991

And they do offer an annual calendar on the Globemaster.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/...lobemaster/annual-calendar-collection/product

So, Omega could easily offer a perpetual calendar but don’t, probably because few people want them AND they are expensive.

 

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Malthus101

·Feb 16, 2024

I mentioned this model in another thread recently - Omega calls it an "annual calendar" watch although it's not exactly like the examples you showed:

 

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gbesq

·Feb 16, 2024

I love every Omega watch that I own, and I own a number of them. I own one JLC and it is objectively a better watch than all of my Omegas in every way. IMO, JLC is every bit as good as the Holy Trinity and, while not cheap, SO much less expensive than anything PP, AP and VC have to offer.

Edited: Feb 16, 2024

 

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Malthus101

·Feb 16, 2024

gbesq

I love every Omega watch that I own, and I own a number of them. I own one JLC and it is objecitvely a better watch than all of my Omegas in every way. IMO, JLC is every bit as good as the Holy Trinity and, while not cheap, SO much less expensive than anything PP, AP and VC have to offer.

I badly want a JLC - I've always wanted a Reverso ever since I first saw an advert for one back in 1996! But satill haven't... 🙁

But I'd really like a JLC that is more "normal". I think the unavailable sector dial would be a winner but there are others I like too.. the trouble is, none of them seem "quite" right, maybe a little too plain perhaps?

 

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Malthus101

·Feb 16, 2024

I like these:

 

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Donn Chambers

·Feb 16, 2024

theluckyluke

The JLC is beautiful. I have never owned a perpetual calendar. Wondering how hardcore it is to adjust to correct settings!

From my understanding, the perpetual calendar is set at the moment of purchase by a technician who is experienced in doing that, and if you EVER let it wind down and need to have it reset, the advise is to send it to the manufacturer to have it reset and not do it yourself.

This is not a movement for casual collectors.