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Who really invented the Co-ax escapement?

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Everything in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein:the modern Prometheus has pretty much come true.
And I think the above is a quote from that book.


If you're talking about something I posted here it's possible I echoed a narrative or message from there, but if so it was purely accidental.

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sheepdoll
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The story is pretty ingrained in pop culture.

I never watched M*A*S*H*, Sienfield or Norther Exposure, but I know who the characters are, and may accidentally quote them or situations as well. Such things do not bode well for those who claim ownership of ideas.

The creature in the book is pretty smart and philosophical, Just really ugly. The 30s flick adds the moaning and groaning. Great iconography though.

Having never been alive have the creature has no concept of death. And the creator hates it.

Young Frankenstein gets it right at the end. The creature quotes the book as well while reading the Wall street Journal.

We regularly swap body parts from cadavers. Perhaps not the brain, (although proteins are used to test dementia treatments.) Electrodes implanted. AI might become as ugly as the creature.

Who would not swap a heart to save a loved one?
 
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2026 will see " Half a century " of practical co-axial movement (1976 patented in 1980).
Moreover, we will celebrate " 100 years George Daniels on August 19, 2026 ":
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Curious to see if Omega will mark the 2024 co-axial escapement anniversary but probably not due to their busy involvement in the 2024 Olympics, so they'll probably await 2026 which will mark the...
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I've always thought the co-axial escapement was a marketing gimmick. It solves no problem. It creates nothing superior to what came before. And I say that as someone who has owned several co-axial Omegas and still own three (although those will be sold).

My favorite Omega movement is the 1120 and that's the one mechanical Omega I will be keeping.
 
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In 1985, George Daniels made an amazing electrically powered escapement model to demonstrate his invention trying to capture attention in the Swiss watch industry.
Gifted by Daniels to the London Science Museum in 2011.
(Photo: MoonwatchUniverse)
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I've always thought the co-axial escapement was a marketing gimmick. It solves no problem. It creates nothing superior to what came before. And I say that as someone who has owned several co-axial Omegas and still own three (although those will be sold).

My favorite Omega movement is the 1120 and that's the one mechanical Omega I will be keeping.
Please correct me if I'm am wrong, but co-axial watch starts from zero almost immediately after you touch it, while others you have to give a proper shake-shake or manually wind them.
In theory that shows less friction and easier "kick"?
 
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others you have to give a proper shake-shake
I think the only ones that need the shake-shake are not fully serviced. A proper service on a lever, and the watch starts as soon as there is enough power in the escapement. Shaking probably is not the greatest thing as it can cause the pallets to twist backwards and chip the stones.

One of my favorite parts of repair, is when one re-installes the balance on a lighttly wound watch and the watch starts up on it's own.
 
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Please correct me if I'm am wrong, but co-axial watch starts from zero almost immediately after you touch it, while others you have to give a proper shake-shake or manually wind them.
In theory that shows less friction and easier "kick"?
Well, one of the problems with the early models was poor self starting. So I wouldn鈥檛 say the movement is inherently good at self starting.

I鈥檝e not noticed much of a difference in self starting when compared to a lever escapement.
 
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I've always thought the co-axial escapement was a marketing gimmick. It solves no problem. It creates nothing superior to what came before. And I say that as someone who has owned several co-axial Omegas and still own three (although those will be sold).

My favorite Omega movement is the 1120 and that's the one mechanical Omega I will be keeping.

I sort of agree, but I also sort of disagree.

Yes, no increase to service intervals, no improvements to timekeeping, and less qualified watchmakers able to service it. It's pretty much only a novelty for the watch owners. But also, it's a feat of engineering and fairly unique in an industry dominated by the Swiss lever, and I think that alone is worth something in the world of luxury goods where Omega lives. As has been said many times over the years; if you just care about objective timekeeping, get a digital watch. Mechanical watches only survive for the novelty of it.
 
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I've always thought the co-axial escapement was a marketing gimmick. It solves no problem. It creates nothing superior to what came before. And I say that as someone who has owned several co-axial Omegas and still own three (although those will be sold).

My favorite Omega movement is the 1120 and that's the one mechanical Omega I will be keeping.
Under what conditions have you owned those watches?
 
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