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DanT
·There is a pretty big flaw in your plan. Other than WG and steel being different hues of grey colour.
White gold c-case connie
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Peemacgee
·Go on....
If you look at the white gold fluted bezel on a C case, the bezel colour is a cleaner, whiter, silver colour than the steel case.
A white gold case back would stand out against a steel mid case in the same way.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorSomeone needs to dig out the thread here where someone has two excellent examples 😗
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ConElPueblo
·Go on....
To begin with the medallions are different...
Then there is the issue of the missing hallmarks in the case - there are two hallmarks visible on the middle case of all Swiss gold watches of this era. Could you *punch* two similiar hallmarks in the steel case without damaging or deforming the case? I wouldn't bet on it.
Then we go on to the meta-issues of your proposition...
If you had the skills and the criminal intent to conduct this sort of crime, why would you do it to a C-case where the profit is by far the lowest? And why on earth would you need a gold case to begin with? Surely that would lower your profits massively as opposed to just fake two steel cases??
That was the practical issues and the concerns with the motives, but we need to consider that this is just not a type of crime that has been seen yet. Because it is a pretty damn complicated way of cheating someone compared to just shipping an empty box and running away with the money - which on the other hand IS a crime that we see all the time.
The way you try to make this sound as a legitimate concern, I would guess that you rarely buy anything online? Anything can and will be faked, surely? 😉
A plain steel Constellation is only a dip in the electrolytic bath away from becoming a rare gold variant, after all...
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M'Bob
·Question: are the crowns on these WG as well?
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Dan S
·The broader point here is I would not buy a WG watch from an unknown seller on Ebay based on photos of a hallmarked caseback without the guarantee of a refund once I received the watch and could do tests or view the hallmarks under a loupe. Hallmarks are routinely faked in gold and silver jewellery so presumably the same applies in watches made from precious metals.
No worries, Dan. You can leave the WG watches for the rest of us. 👍
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega Aficionado
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Bill Sohne
··Bill @ ΩFHi everyone
At first glance the c-shaped dress watches are often the red head step child ......
I have a few an IWC yacht club ! They are cool ....
I have a steel an white gold bezel Connie also very cool .
I have 18k yellow gold day date Connie as well .....
What a lot of collectors miss is the Seamaster 120 is also a c-cased watxh and is a good gateway to the world of c-cased watches ...
take a look at my Doxa sub 300T
another c-cased watch ...
good hunting
Bill
At first glance the c-shaped dress watches are often the red head step child ......
I have a few an IWC yacht club ! They are cool ....
I have a steel an white gold bezel Connie also very cool .
I have 18k yellow gold day date Connie as well .....
What a lot of collectors miss is the Seamaster 120 is also a c-cased watxh and is a good gateway to the world of c-cased watches ...
take a look at my Doxa sub 300T
another c-cased watch ...
good hunting
Bill
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Yelfel
·I can comment on the look and feel of white gold which is very different than steel. Once you see and feel it in person, unlikely to get the two confused. Here’s my WG C case on WG bracelet. The hue is definitely warmer and there’s a heft/mass to WG that most steel doesn’t have, especially steel watches made in this era. The thing also just glows. Gold reflects light in ways steel does not.
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DanT
·@ConElPueblo beat me to it as I was going to say the same.
If you look at the white gold fluted bezel on a C case, the bezel colour is a cleaner, whiter, silver colour than the steel case.
A white gold case back would stand out against a steeI mid case in the same way.
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega Aficionado18k gold white or otherwise is about twice the weight of steel so should be obvious.
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lehippi
·Does anyone know if the WG 168.009 and 168.019 only had 18k WG dials? I know the regular YG 168.009 had both regular dials and solid gold dials.
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Yelfel
·L lehippiDoes anyone know if the WG 168.009 and 168.019 only had 18k WG dials? I know the regular YG 168.009 had both regular dials and solid gold dials.
I was told by my watchmaker the WG Constellations (168.029, 168.009, 168.019) had both WG and Non-WG dials. The WG variety is marked on the back of the dial. I've been searching for confirmation of this, but not much out there regarding WG Constellations of this era in general.
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sfaaron
·I happened to hold this watch yesterday while dropping off a Zenith for a service. It's a beautiful watch, the C-case. The face is also white gold, not sure if that detail is commonly known or not.
C-case On eBay currently
Steep asking price ($15,000) but what they ask is up to the seller
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-Men...274641714217?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
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