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Nerves69
··I'll Take a Quiet Life
Any thoughts on this rare bird?!
Condition and price?
White Dial Ranchero 2990 for sale
Any thoughts on this rare bird?!
Condition and price?
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBIFor posterity
Price posted on Reddit: $6,500
Price on their website: $7,150
Sharing your thoughts will always help start the conversation 👍 📖
Price posted on Reddit: $6,500
Price on their website: $7,150
Any thoughts on this rare bird?!
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cristos71
·My thoughts are that it is such a turn off for my wallet when a lazy ass seller asks almost €6.5K for a watch and can't even be bothered to remove the disgusting wrist cheese. Of course when buying in the wild cheap that's exactly what I want to see, but this 'faux wild catch' DNA would be reason enough for me not to do business.
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gbesq
·Dial and hands look original and in nice condition. The crown is incorrect and the bracelet end links are wrong for the case. The watch will need a service. I personally would have a concern about buying a Ranchero without an extract, but that’s just me.
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TheGreekPhysique
·For posterity
Price posted on Reddit: $6,500
Price on their website: $7,150
Sharing your thoughts will always help start the conversation 👍 📖
@Scarecrow Boat @Nerves69
I can share my thoughts since this is my listing. The price of $6500 is for wire or zelle. The price through website is $7,150. That is because buying through the website has approximately 10% in fees. There is a shopify fee, a payment processor fee, a fee if someone uses paypal or credit card on top of that. I also pay a percentage of each transaction fee for insurance against fraud such as charge backs.
@cristos71 I didn't do any cleaning of the case or anything because of the fear of radium. Of course I could have cleaned up the case with the case back still on and I didnt/ You are right about that. I run SCVW on the side. I work full time at a hospital and have a family so often times that means I am doing write ups and photographing on the weekend so the cleaning of the case was an oversight on my part and I'll do better in the future.
In terms of the "faux wild catch' DNA. I am not sure where that came from. I never claimed it was a wild catch. This watch actually came to me on consignment from a fellow OF member who asked me to help sell.
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redzer007
·This watch actually came to me on consignment from a fellow OF member who asked me to help sell.
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TheGreekPhysique
·Does this make you a dealer then?
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gbesq
·Does this make you a dealer then?
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Sharp
·I'm not sure that I understand the point of your post. What difference does it make whether he's a "dealer" or not? He's a well regarded member of OF and is just trying to help another member of OF sell some of his collection. Nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned. It'a also worth noting that he didn't post the watch for sale on OF. Attention was called to it by another member who saw it on Reddit.
Well he has been selling here in the private watch sales forum but actually has a branded store with 100+ sales
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBII'm not sure that I understand the point of your post. What difference does it make whether he's a "dealer" or not? He's a well regarded member of OF
I see your point, but again, he has not posted THIS particular watch for sale on OF.
I guess it would depend on what you classify as a dealer. I have a full time job working at a hospital and do this on the side.
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JwRosenthal
·Dealer has a “bad” connotation here not because of character of the seller, the quality of the watches or anything negative about dealers (they aren’t used car salesmen…not all of them anyway)- but becuase it means exile from the private watch sales section. That’s the part nobody is saying but there it is.
No member here, who is not a watch dealer by trade, wants to be relegated to the “watches for sale” dealer section as it garners less eyes than the private watch section and there is a stigma attached to it wether we want to admit it or not. The benefit of listing in the watches for sale section- for non-dealer members who have large collections- is the ability to list several at a time. But this is also part of the reason it gets less traffic from most members, because it’s loaded with the same listings from the same dealers for pages until you find the one-off random listings by a non-dealer member that’s been sent to exile there (I do believe the mods have voluntarily put their own listings there).
Several members wanting to shrink their collections rapidly have been sent to purgatory becuase they listed too many in succession, broke some sales section rule or other members have complained to the mods (I think many of us remember a few of these situations).
Bottom line, if someone asks “are you a dealer” here, it sounds like a gotcha, followed by exile.
Niko has sold a few watches for me- he gets far more exposure in his other socials than I do here on OF (this is my only social media presence). Watches I have sent to him (or given in person since he attends the local GTG’s) are ones I know won’t get much interest here. He buys and sells watches from local jewelry shops (he has his connections like any avid collector here) he buys lots and keeps what he wants and sells the rest off- no different than a bulk of the non-dealer members here.
He’s created a website to sell what he doesn’t want and friends (several here) have found his SM following to bring more exposure to watches which may have languished if we tried to sell them here. He does this out of his house on the weekends and when he does sell for his friends he charges a very modest percentage which basically covers his costs and not really his time.
Does this make him a “dealer”? Who cares? He doesn’t sell here enough to violate any forum rules about quantity, many other members list their watches on multiple other platforms , so I don’t see any issue of transparency here.
No member here, who is not a watch dealer by trade, wants to be relegated to the “watches for sale” dealer section as it garners less eyes than the private watch section and there is a stigma attached to it wether we want to admit it or not. The benefit of listing in the watches for sale section- for non-dealer members who have large collections- is the ability to list several at a time. But this is also part of the reason it gets less traffic from most members, because it’s loaded with the same listings from the same dealers for pages until you find the one-off random listings by a non-dealer member that’s been sent to exile there (I do believe the mods have voluntarily put their own listings there).
Several members wanting to shrink their collections rapidly have been sent to purgatory becuase they listed too many in succession, broke some sales section rule or other members have complained to the mods (I think many of us remember a few of these situations).
Bottom line, if someone asks “are you a dealer” here, it sounds like a gotcha, followed by exile.
Niko has sold a few watches for me- he gets far more exposure in his other socials than I do here on OF (this is my only social media presence). Watches I have sent to him (or given in person since he attends the local GTG’s) are ones I know won’t get much interest here. He buys and sells watches from local jewelry shops (he has his connections like any avid collector here) he buys lots and keeps what he wants and sells the rest off- no different than a bulk of the non-dealer members here.
He’s created a website to sell what he doesn’t want and friends (several here) have found his SM following to bring more exposure to watches which may have languished if we tried to sell them here. He does this out of his house on the weekends and when he does sell for his friends he charges a very modest percentage which basically covers his costs and not really his time.
Does this make him a “dealer”? Who cares? He doesn’t sell here enough to violate any forum rules about quantity, many other members list their watches on multiple other platforms , so I don’t see any issue of transparency here.
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JwRosenthal
·It would seem that future sales should be in the watches for sale section.
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gbesq
·Maybe I don’t understand, but your post reads as defensive when no one has raised any pitchforks. It’s a fair question as this forum values transparency. He can still be a dealer and a “well regarded member of OF”. I can think of several members on this forum that are held in high regard and looked to for their expertise, while also being known as dealers.
Maybe so, but there is still plenty of overlap: Previous and current listings in the private sales section were/are simultaneously listed on his site. He also uses reviews he’s earned on OF as TheGreekPhysique as reviews for his website as Steelcitywatches. I’m not saying this is wrong but pointing out the overlap, and again why transparency is always best- more so as maybe the OF buyers didn’t know they were buying from steelcitywatches.
IMHO you’re a dealer. How you have built your website and how you present your watches says “dealer” more than part time outlet for when I’m ready to sell my watch. On your about page, you say “What we hope to achieve here is creating a virtual space, similar to a brick and mortar vintage shop” and “The collection you will see have been carefully curated, personally, by us [...] We achieve this through the network we have built over the last 8 years. Watches come directly from original owners, renowned private collections, auction houses and our local community.” That language elicits a professional dealer image/experience more than anything else. That said, regardless of if it is part or full time, being a dealer isn’t bad. The term dealer has a negative connotation but there are plenty of great well regarded people that are dealers. But again, this is all just my opinion, which admittedly carries little weight. I know text can lack context/come across as blunt, so I should say, because I’m really not trying to argue with anyone- none of what I’m saying is intended to be/come across as negative or attacking to either you or Greg. If you are or want to be a dealer, be a dealer. People here know your reputation and what you bring to the table. All I can say related to your listings is great job with the photography! 👍
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBIHe doesn’t sell here enough to violate any forum rules about quantity, many other members list their watches on multiple other platforms , so I don’t see any issue of transparency here.
No member here, who is not a watch dealer by trade, wants to be relegated to the “watches for sale” dealer section as it garners less eyes than the private watch section and there is a stigma attached to it wether we want to admit it or not.
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speedb
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JwRosenthal
·High volume isn’t the only qualification. @dsio has explained the requirements for this section are: High volume sellers and/or people with actual storefronts or websites to sell watches are what qualifies the move.
Yes there are the familiar dealers that post with heavy repetition in that section that can easily bury a one off post, however I have yet to see that delaying a good deal from being made from that section. When a good deal is posted in that section, I have seen it get snapped up just as fast as the good deals in the private section.
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFIt’s probably borderline but likely leaning towards the dealer section being the right option, I’ll have a look at this later on I’m just doing some other stuff that’s overdue at the moment. Typically if you’re at the point where you’re running a website to sell your excess watches even if it’s not your main income the dealer section is more appropriate. Kyle L for example voluntarily put himself in that category years ago even though his volume isn’t that high.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerAnd my point right there.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for someone who IMO is clearly a dealer based on OF’s rules, should post in the dealers section.
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