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JwRosenthal
·I don’t think it’s unreasonable for someone who IMO is clearly a dealer based on OF’s rules, should post in the dealers section.
White Dial Ranchero 2990 for sale
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Shabbaz
·I just took a look at the website of steel vintage watches. And it looks impressive. Good luck with that @TheGreekPhysique .
Yes, I must say I dont look at the dealer section often. Strange because a couple of interesting sellers are selling their watches there right now. Maybe we can split the dealer section in two parts: one for modern watches and one for vintage (like before and after 1990). But I understand the 1990 thing is a bit arbitrary.
Yes, I must say I dont look at the dealer section often. Strange because a couple of interesting sellers are selling their watches there right now. Maybe we can split the dealer section in two parts: one for modern watches and one for vintage (like before and after 1990). But I understand the 1990 thing is a bit arbitrary.
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watchcollect
·The whole premise of the private seller section is for collectors not e-commerce sellers. Shame this is even being debated as the seller admits the side hustle has turned into something more than that.
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Aroxx
·Well this thread sure took a turn... 🍿
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JwRosenthal
·The whole premise of the private seller section is for collectors not e-commerce sellers. Shame this is even being debated as the seller admits the side hustle has turned into something more than that.
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Shabbaz
·I don’t think it’s a shame really, these are good conversations to have in a community where the lines get blurred. One day a passive collector, the next day an avid collector, then you are buying/selling regularly- many here have gone down that path. There are several in the private watch sales section that are a little more than avid collectors…but seem to not want to sell in the Watches for sale section…hmmm, I wonder why 😗
But perhaps we can make the dealer section a bit more attractive so that it becomes more part of OF (and it becomes more interesting for members, who have outgrown the private watchspace a bit, to sell there). As mentioned before, there is nothing wrong with trying to sell watches in a more professional manner.
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Davidt
·Imo the issue with the Dealer sales section are the ‘members’ who refuse to bump their sales posts and instead simply repost them time after time. This utterly ruins the search function as anytime one searches for a watch they happen to have listed, you just get pages and pages of identical listings of the same overpolished Rolex.
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Sa Calobra
·A dealer section where you could filter out posts of certain dealers would be amazing
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Gabguzro
·I am thankful this conversation is happening, as it made me finally understand the difference between the two main sales forums, lol.
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140dave
·I, for one, frequent and shop both FS threads. Great sellers like Kyle L, Ndgal, and nanjingcigaretes are always worth looking at and I look at any/all that are not from the big dealers. Yes, you have to scroll by a lot of posts from the big 3 pros there, but always worth a look IMO.
It’s like eBay, just because there are dealers doesn’t mean there are no deals to be found.
It’s like eBay, just because there are dealers doesn’t mean there are no deals to be found.
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EdtheAussie
·Also, dealers are, by definition, looking to make a profit.
I think most 'enthuisiasts' are also looking to turn a profit, it's just not a full time thing.
I don’t think it’s a shame really, these are good conversations to have in a community where the lines get blurred. One day a passive collector, the next day an avid collector, then you are buying/selling regularly- many here have gone down that path. There are several in the private watch sales section that are a little more than avid collectors…but seem to not want to sell in the Watches for sale section…hmmm, I wonder why 😗
I think this is an important conversation. Maybe dealers can have a business and personal profile, sometimes watches are just that, personal, they're not on the businesses books etc...
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Nerves69
··I'll Take a Quiet LifeQuite the dialogue. Hahaha! I just thought it was a cool watch to review and I know some of our members are searching for a white dial variant ( via the last Ranchero sale thread conversation). Apologies to @GreekPhysique if I caused any consternation. As the original poster and a newbie, I hope I didn’t cause any agita. 😟
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paddymoran
·From a prospective buyer perspective I do think it’s important to be able to distinguish private collector sales from “dealer” sales, particularly on a community forum such as OF.
When buying a sought after vintage watch I personally factor in the seller and knowing the providence of a watch, owned for some time by a private seller, increases a vintage watches attractiveness to me.
As mentioned, maybe there’s a way for members to sell across both sections - depending on the history of the watch for sale, within strict limitations??
Finally, just to add that rules should be applied consistently (not easy of course and the mods do an amazing job) and there are occasions where a seller in the Private section seems to have all the hallmarks of a Dealer.
When buying a sought after vintage watch I personally factor in the seller and knowing the providence of a watch, owned for some time by a private seller, increases a vintage watches attractiveness to me.
As mentioned, maybe there’s a way for members to sell across both sections - depending on the history of the watch for sale, within strict limitations??
Finally, just to add that rules should be applied consistently (not easy of course and the mods do an amazing job) and there are occasions where a seller in the Private section seems to have all the hallmarks of a Dealer.
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JwRosenthal
·Quite the dialogue. Hahaha! I just thought it was a cool watch to review and I know some of our members are searching for a white dial variant ( via the last Ranchero sale thread conversation). Apologies to @GreekPhysique if I caused any consternation. As the original poster and a newbie, I hope I didn’t cause any agita. 😟
Now if you want to really get a shit-storm going, just ask what the water resistance on a Speedmaster I and if it’s safe to wear in the pool..I will state for the record that they are not rated for Snorkeling.
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Shabbaz
·Now if you want to really get a shit-storm going, just ask what the water resistance on a Speedmaster I and if it’s safe to wear in the pool
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBIFinally, just to add that rules should be applied consistently (not easy of course and the mods do an amazing job) and there are occasions where a seller in the Private section seems to have all the hallmarks of a Dealer.
That said, I think suggestions like being able to sell in both sections dependent on x, or having a personal & business profile to be able to sell in both depending on the watch/situation, and splitting the dealer section into vintage & modern all sound good in theory; however, it adds so much more work to the moderators plates, and invites more grey area into the rules. I also agree with you in that there are sellers in the private section that have the hallmarks of a dealer- some actually are. For example, I can think of one “dealer” that flies under the radar and sells out of the private section- 1. Because they don’t push a high inventory on here as OF is their secondary platform & 2. They don’t have a website. Their Instagram is their business platform & only use it to sell, they push quite a high volume on it, and they label themselves in their Instagram profile description as a “watch dealer”.
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paddymoran
·I’m not suggesting overly complex rules or criteria that are difficult to track but maybe there could be a low maximum number of sales posts permitted in the Private sales section for all members who meet the 200 post criteria?
I’d also be in favour of a small fee to OF for every successful sale on the forum - to go a very small way in acknowledging all the time commitment to maintain this amazing resource.
I’d also be in favour of a small fee to OF for every successful sale on the forum - to go a very small way in acknowledging all the time commitment to maintain this amazing resource.
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBII, for one, frequent and shop both FS threads. Great sellers like Kyle L, Ndgal, and nanjingcigaretes are always worth looking at and I look at any/all that are not from the big dealers. Yes, you have to scroll by a lot of posts from the big 3 pros there, but always worth a look IMO.
I personally don’t see the watches for sale section as a zone of relegation or exile. As I said earlier, good deals don’t last long in that section. They might not be super frequent but honestly, the private section can be this way too.
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gbesq
·You guys go ahead and keep debating while I quietly slip into camp at night and buy this thing. 😁
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