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Where to find genuine 18k rose gold buckle for Constellation?

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At least that's how I convinced myself to justify the premium...

Well, buying from a dealer does mean paying more money, but if you really really wanted the watch, and could afford it, then of course you should now enjoy it. 😀 Because you paid a very large premium, I would just expect Goldammer to really assist you in every matter, should you have problems with the watch.

It is a very nice watch, no question. Finding a Connie ref. 2852 in 18k Rosegold in good condition on your own in the wild might (probably would) have taken years. Some here like the hunting and are willing to wait a long time and build knowledge towards the purchase.

If you stick around, slowly you will become more knowledgeable and will build the confidence to buy stuff in the wild. There are many members also who would help you with information etc. There is also a private sales section here with great offers sometimes.

In the meantime, wear it in good health and post some shots of it once it is in your hands!
 
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Well, buying from a dealer does mean paying more money, but if you really really wanted the watch, and could afford it, then of course you should now enjoy it. 😀 .......

In the meantime, wear it in good health and post some shots of it once it is in your hands!

Yep. Paid my noob tax in full in a different way - I hope I made a good decision! It was somewhat an impulsive move to be honest, but I fell in love as soon as I saw it.

The real pain comes from the import tax, which is approximately ~40% on top. I will just think I saved my time and effort in securing a top-grade Connie. (Maybe I missed all the fun here, but as you pointed out, I am probably not ready yet to hunt in the wild...)

Besides, I haven't seen a Connie in such a great original shape & condition locally.

Again, I am justifying my actions! 😗

Let's see how happy I will be once I receive my watch...😉 Can't wait to lost some pics!

BTW, sent you a note asking your opinion on something...
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Sherbie
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OP

i noticed from the Goldammer web site, that they have described this as a pie pan dial

please be aware that your watch is NOT a pie pan - its a two tone dome dial

just saying ....

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OP

i noticed from the Goldammer web site, that they have described this as a pie pan dial

please be aware that your watch is NOT a pie pan - its a two tone dome dial

just saying ....

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Appreciate your pointing it out.

Is pie pan dial superior or more valuable than the domed dial?
Would a Domed dial significantly degrade/devalue a Connie?

I feel Pie pan dial has more character to it, while Domed dial is bit more on the graceful/ elegant side - but if it comes to the value of the watch being impacted, then it is a different story...
 
Sherbie
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Yes, I believe in most cases a pie pan dial ( with 12 sides) is far more valuable that a dome dial

i’ll let the experts chime in here - to dismiss my claim or agree with it - but if the dealer has charged you a premium for a pie pan watch, when it clearly isnt, you may want to go back and address this with him ( especially as you have also paid 40% more on duty)
 
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I feel Pie pan dial has more character to it, while Domed dial is bit more on the graceful/ elegant side - but if it comes to the value of the watch being impacted, then it is a different story...
If you like it, don't worry about it. Neither dial are any better or any worse. In fact, there are many fewer dome dials.
 
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Very nice watch. I can't help with the buckle but a rose gold watch is a thing of beauty. If you look for another watch at any point, do consider the private sales here.

Cheers, Chris
 
MSNWatch
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When you are looking for a rose gold connie from this era, condition and originality trump the dial style so whether it is a piepan dial or not for me is less important.
 
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Sherbie Sherbie
OP

i noticed from the Goldammer web site, that they have described this as a pie pan dial

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Beautiful watch, great choice OP, enjoy! Again though - Goldammer describe it as "18K full rose gold dial" - you might want to check that point with them too. For comparison, they do have another one like that in their gallery of sold watches.

Edit - as @MSNWatch says re piepans, this doesn't have to matter - aesthetically, this super reference does not need all the trimmings to be beautiful and desirable. With one of these, valuation issues based on these differences in spec would not stop me enjoying it, you lucky chap!
 
Sherbie
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According to the website, the Watch was listed at euros 5.7k

the OP also stated that he had/has to pay another 40% taxes on top of this to bring it into his country - so lets call that euros 8k all in so far

that is one SHED LOAD of cash, for a domed dial Connie ( regardless of the nice condition and pink gold case ) - but at the end of the day, its not a pie pan, nor does it have dog leg case, which are really sought after

i just want the OP to get a good deal

8k euros seems far too high for me

others mileage will vary
 
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differences in spec would not stop me enjoying it
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Sherbie Sherbie
euros 8k all in so far
that is one SHED LOAD of cash
Yes, agreed on that. (More than I could muster!)
 
MSNWatch
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Sherbie Sherbie
According to the website, the Watch was listed at euros 5.7k

the OP also stated that he had/has to pay another 40% taxes on top of this to bring it into his country - so lets call that euros 8k all in so far

that is one SHED LOAD of cash, for a domed dial Connie ( regardless of the nice condition and pink gold case ) - but at the end of the day, its not a pie pan, nor does it have dog leg case, which are really sought after

i just want the OP to get a good deal

8k euros seems far too high for me

others mileage will vary

Not a bargain to be sure. Will say though that it is tougher to find a nice cal. 510/505 18k rose gold connie than an 18k rose gold piepan dog leg connie. For instance I own a NOS version of the latter but have never seen a NOS version of the former.
 
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@Sherbie It might be a shed load of cash, sure, but in the end, I believe it is a personal matter to the OP how much he is willing to pay for a rare reference he likes. In this case the watch is indeed a very rare piece in outstanding condition in 18k Rosegold.

Sure, it was sold by a dealer and it was extremely expensive. But if the OP had the means to pull the trigger, and wanted this specific piece, I see it as a personal matter. Would I have done it? No. But I am not the OP.

Also, ref. 2852 and 14900 or 167.005 (which I had in mind when you mentioned the dog leg case) are both desirable and collectible. I don't see a 2852 less of a watch in terms of value even in comparison to a 167.005, for example. They are also different aesthetics, one from the 50s and the other from the 60s, which in my mind are not so easy to compare.

Edit: was beat by @MSNWatch in writing.
 
omega-3
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Guys, I feel like I am causing a lot of unnecessary noise here...😬😬 All I wanted was to find a 18k rose gold buckle to match the watch

Being serious, I will make an apology first as I might have misrepresented myself from the beginning.

I have been a collector myself in other fields, and I know exactly how much joy and exhilaration one can get by obtaining/acquiring something after years of searching.

Knowing this, I do not undervalue the time, effort and patience required for hunting the wanted.

I will soon follow the same path with most of you, as you might already have guessed from my digging into finding the matching buckle...I am naturally inclined to go that direction anyway.

With regards to the pie pan debate - I think I should reach out to the seller, as the description was clearly misleading. Maybe ask for partial refund or something. Dunno, need to discuss...
 
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FWIW, Omega has always called these “pie-pan” dials.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-constellation-omega-ot-2852

Even if we don’t agree.
gatorcpa

I would say that Omega themselves call all dial variants "pie-pan" in the vintage watch database, but on the other hand there are a lot of generalisations on the site, so it doesn't hold any weight to me. If they don't list the different case metals, why should they list the various dial types?
 
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I would say that Omega themselves call all dial variants "pie-pan" in the vintage watch database, but on the other hand there are a lot of generalisations on the site, so it doesn't hold any weight to me.

I agree with this - especially if we adhere to the theory that ‘pie-pan’ is an English ( or American) derivation of ‘douze-pans’ meaning ‘twelve sides’ and that we can all agree that a dome dial is not a pie-pan. (Not that all do, for some reason only known to themselves)
- and of course we have no record of when the Omega archivists, no doubt working in a second language, began to call all ‘pie-panish’ dials pie-pans.

That argument aside, as it is clearly stated in the OVDB, it won’t help the OP if he went back to the seller and says “I’d like a reduction please because some blokes off the internet said it’s not a ‘pie-pan”

@omega-3
Enjoy your watch - it’s a beauty
Forget the pie-pan debate and good luck with the hunt for your unicorn buckle.
 
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