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·Hi, a few weeks ago I posted some photos of a 105.012 65 HF for some advice. It turns out the hands, crown and pushers are all service items and the bracelet is a 1116 with 575 rather than a 1506/16
There was also some comment about the dial - one of the members did a bit of an assassination job on it. On the one hand if you put things on a forum for advice then comment is what you are asking for, but it was a bit disheartening (I really shouldn't be that soft thogh LoL).
Since then I have taken the watch to a repairer with over 40 years experience. Having dealt with 100s of Speedmasters, he is of the opinion that the dial is likely to be a very early service example. In his opinion It is just too good for someone to be producing fake dials like this and the effort involved in setting up the manufacturing process wouldn't have be worth it, particularly as the dial was made when Speedmaster prices were nothing like what they are now.
So I thought I'd ask for more views on the dial. Is it definitely a fake, could it be an out of the factory early service dial or is it likely to be an early service dial which may have been relumed?
A second question, what do I do with the watch now as unfortunately I can't afford to keep it.
So ... Should I sell the watch as is or do the modifications to the watch make it such a heinous abomination that no-one will be interested in it? Or do the good parts of the watch make it still interesting to collectors?
The plus points of the watch are that it has a very good DON bezel, a 321 movement in excellent working condition which is around 700 serial number wise off the actual Moon watch, a case which may have been polished but is still very nice, a 1116 bracelet in good condition with 575 end links. Then there are the service parts ...
Is it a case that the sum of the parts are greater then the value of the watch as is, or is the watch still of sufficient interest to people to sell as is.
I've added a few more, hopefully better photos now.of the dial and movement outside the case
There was also some comment about the dial - one of the members did a bit of an assassination job on it. On the one hand if you put things on a forum for advice then comment is what you are asking for, but it was a bit disheartening (I really shouldn't be that soft thogh LoL).
Since then I have taken the watch to a repairer with over 40 years experience. Having dealt with 100s of Speedmasters, he is of the opinion that the dial is likely to be a very early service example. In his opinion It is just too good for someone to be producing fake dials like this and the effort involved in setting up the manufacturing process wouldn't have be worth it, particularly as the dial was made when Speedmaster prices were nothing like what they are now.
So I thought I'd ask for more views on the dial. Is it definitely a fake, could it be an out of the factory early service dial or is it likely to be an early service dial which may have been relumed?
A second question, what do I do with the watch now as unfortunately I can't afford to keep it.
So ... Should I sell the watch as is or do the modifications to the watch make it such a heinous abomination that no-one will be interested in it? Or do the good parts of the watch make it still interesting to collectors?
The plus points of the watch are that it has a very good DON bezel, a 321 movement in excellent working condition which is around 700 serial number wise off the actual Moon watch, a case which may have been polished but is still very nice, a 1116 bracelet in good condition with 575 end links. Then there are the service parts ...
Is it a case that the sum of the parts are greater then the value of the watch as is, or is the watch still of sufficient interest to people to sell as is.
I've added a few more, hopefully better photos now.of the dial and movement outside the case
