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redpcar
·Time is absolute? You are getting into some deep water 😉
What is a your "I can't take it any more" accuracy limit?
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Mouse_at_Large
·My advice - set your watch against some reliable and consistent source, say your phone. Check it against the same source a week later. If it has gained or lost a sufficient amount of time that it has impacted on your life in the meantime, you'll have noticed it by then. Otherwise enjoy the watch and don't get OCD about a few seconds a day.
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JwRosenthal
·Audio is subjective to the listener, time is not. I have been an audiophile and EE for 30yrs. Worked for the best of them. The best I could ever advise someone is buy what sounds good to you. That's the bottom line... Test results be damned.
Time though is absolute. It is either right, or it is not.
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lindo
·Staying at home for weeks at a time has pushed me to revisit some thread topics.
I decided to test three of my modern watches against each other for 24 hours, and against my iPhone clock as a control. I am not sure what the point of my test was, but it appealed to me for some reason - and I was surprised by the results.
This image was taken after 24 hours, the watches having been carefully set to iPhone time. Don't worry about the minute hands (or the date) because I wasn't trying to set the minute hands exactly to the marker, but focussing on the seconds hands. Despite my care to get the seconds exactly equivalent I guess there may have been a quarter of second variation.
What you can see from the image is that all three remained within half a second of each other. I just loved that result: it felt like winning the lottery.
However comparing them with iPhone time revealed that each of the three watches had gained five seconds in the 24 hour period. Not a catastrophe but it was a good reality check. (Some of my vintage Omega Constellations keep comparable times - like others in this thread, I don't worry if my vintage watches keep within 12 seconds per day, but beyond that they go in for service).
The two Omegas were bought new in 2019, and the Rolex DJ is from 1998 (but serviced in 2019).
I decided to test three of my modern watches against each other for 24 hours, and against my iPhone clock as a control. I am not sure what the point of my test was, but it appealed to me for some reason - and I was surprised by the results.
This image was taken after 24 hours, the watches having been carefully set to iPhone time. Don't worry about the minute hands (or the date) because I wasn't trying to set the minute hands exactly to the marker, but focussing on the seconds hands. Despite my care to get the seconds exactly equivalent I guess there may have been a quarter of second variation.
What you can see from the image is that all three remained within half a second of each other. I just loved that result: it felt like winning the lottery.
However comparing them with iPhone time revealed that each of the three watches had gained five seconds in the 24 hour period. Not a catastrophe but it was a good reality check. (Some of my vintage Omega Constellations keep comparable times - like others in this thread, I don't worry if my vintage watches keep within 12 seconds per day, but beyond that they go in for service).
The two Omegas were bought new in 2019, and the Rolex DJ is from 1998 (but serviced in 2019).
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Canuck
·Timing machines are most useful in diagnosing where a problem might be in a watch that is due for service. Or in making a quick judgement about what might be bothering an underperforming watch that annoys a customer. A reading on a timing machine at a given point of time is the machine telling you that, at this very moment, if the rate doesn’t change in the next 24 hours, the watch will be out fast or slow, X amount of time. Leave the watch on the machine in that position, and check the rate again after, say, 12 hours, the rate will be different. I use my timing machine on watches I have serviced, and rarely does any one of my 120 + watches go any where near it.
The 50 year old Accutron I am presently wearing is 23 seconds slow in 30 days. I can live with that, but I could improve on it if I were to obsess about it.
The 50 year old Accutron I am presently wearing is 23 seconds slow in 30 days. I can live with that, but I could improve on it if I were to obsess about it.
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Faz
·I hate a slow watch. My tolerance is -10 secs per day. I can endure that because I rarely wear a watch for more than a week. So if at the end of the week it's a minute slow, I'm ok with that. I only have one watch that performs to that limit. All the rest are very accurate.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorNever had the time to worry about how a watch runs.
Usually set when I put it on.
Modern Speedmaster is my regular ride and most watches are put on for less than a day.
Usually set when I put it on.
Modern Speedmaster is my regular ride and most watches are put on for less than a day.
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kkt
·I have some watches that I wear for several days at a time before swapping them out. Those, I like to have within -0 to +10 seconds per day. The dress watches that I will wear for an evening and then put away for a few weeks, a minute a day is fine.
The quartz ones that I put away from a couple of months and then wonder why they're 5 minutes off, I wonder what their excuse is.
The quartz ones that I put away from a couple of months and then wonder why they're 5 minutes off, I wonder what their excuse is.
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Lostpuppy116
·I have been spoiled in terms of watch accuracy. My wonderful wife gave me a Citizen AT4004-52E in 2013. Atomic timekeeping, solar power and perpetual calendar were neat features for me at the time. After other watches without the features were added to the collection, well, I almost feel that having to mess with the date or time at all is too much. The price for all that convenience was less than $500 USD in 2013. Love both my speedmasters and the Grand Seiko though, very classy watches.
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Mad Dog
·I hate a slow watch.
I hate a slow watch too.
Dad always exclaimed, “If you’re early, you’re on time...if you’re on time, you’re late...and if you’re late, you suck!”
NOTE: Sort of funny...in the airline industry, being too early regarding gate arrivals can really cause problems since the gates can still be occupied by departing aircraft.
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JwRosenthal
·I agree. Some judges in Tennessee lock the courtroom door at docket call. If you are not in the court, well, the results vary. One judge it is $50 USD fine or a night in jail, others a potential dismissal of your case or an adverse ruling (which can effectively close the case). These results do not apply to lawyers themselves normally, but make a habit of it and see what happens.
If the assignment was 10 prints on the wall at 9, and you were hanging your 9th and hadn’t gotten your 10th up- at 9, you failed.
We all thought that was harsh at the time but he started the semester by saying that he was not just teaching photography, but professional practice- if you have a meeting/shoot at a specific time, allot twice as long as it takes to get there (this thinking paid off when I was doing wedding work as traffic was often unpredictable).
If the client asks for 10 examples of work, have 10, not 9, not 11, 10 (make sure though that you have a few in the bag if one of the 10 don’t work for them).
I made sure to set my quartz Swiss Army watch to his time.
His lesson in professional practice has been a virtue I live by- and I have never been late for a meeting/shoot and have never been short on deliverables. A watch being accurate to the second isn’t important to me now- I am always at least 10 minute early for any appointment. Most of the best information comes from colleagues/clients in those moments before the official meeting starts.
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Explorador
·Well, I do work in the airline industry in Switzerland. Punctuality in my job is a working tool. Too early is as unacceptable as too late. Many entries that I do in the airline's online system will generate other actions, which generate further actions, like a cascade (e.g. to release a loadsheet, or to close pax acceptance, etc.) Our systems register the exact time of every single entry.
After 28 years of full time duty and hundreds if not thousands of discussions with passengers and colleagues about the exact time an entry was made in the system, my tolerance of accuracy has come down to 0 sec/day.
The level of inaccuracy of my watches must be less or equal then the possibility to correct them through self regulation at night.
So, none of my watches is 100% accurate (normally 1 sec/day), but I got used to keeping them right on spot. No tolerance.
I know, quartz watches are more suitable for this, but I just LOVE mechanical watches.
After 28 years of full time duty and hundreds if not thousands of discussions with passengers and colleagues about the exact time an entry was made in the system, my tolerance of accuracy has come down to 0 sec/day.
The level of inaccuracy of my watches must be less or equal then the possibility to correct them through self regulation at night.
So, none of my watches is 100% accurate (normally 1 sec/day), but I got used to keeping them right on spot. No tolerance.
I know, quartz watches are more suitable for this, but I just LOVE mechanical watches.
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bgrisso
·I don't tend to wear the same watch two days in a row, so I have no idea how accurate anything is. It's hard enough dealing with existing obsessions, I try not to add any new ones if possible........
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dscoogs
·Retired now so +10 secs/day does not bother me at all ...
In my previous life I worked in trading and with real-time systems so looked for +/- 10 secs/year HAQ watch. Between DST and a few trips across time zones per year this watch was almost never wrong for more than a couple of secs.
In my previous life I worked in trading and with real-time systems so looked for +/- 10 secs/year HAQ watch. Between DST and a few trips across time zones per year this watch was almost never wrong for more than a couple of secs.
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wilderbeast
·Ditto.
I hate a slow watch too.
Dad always exclaimed, “If you’re early, you’re on time...if you’re on time, you’re late...and if you’re late, you suck!”
NOTE: Sort of funny...in the airline industry, being too early regarding gate arrivals can really cause problems since the gates can still be occupied by departing aircraft.
It’s only my quartz Seamaster that runs slow... and I suspect it’s due to the modern battery. Most accurate is my cheapest vintage... the Dugena Monza that has become a bit of a daily wearer at home during lockdown. It’s gaining about a second a day.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Accuracy limit reached. WTF is the truth about Covid 19 Test kits???????????Perspiring minds want to know. 😕
