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What do you think of this speedy. 1969?
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whitewolf777
·It looks to me that there is the accent on the “tachymètre”
The dot is over ninety and the 70 and dot seem correct. caseback is old style
The dot is over ninety and the 70 and dot seem correct. caseback is old style
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janice&fred
·How can anyone give an opinion if you won't tell the price?
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Servius
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Wlcutter
·Obviously it depends a lot on price.
Given the scant pictures, here's what I see: dial's free of marks, though the lume seems green (a better pic would obv be useful) and not quite matching the (great) lume in the hands. A near-flawless DON, the case looks excellent (evident brushing, etching clear in the caseback), the bracelet (1039/516) also looks very very good (brushed center, polished ends), and the watch (presumably) comes with its crater box. A 145.022-69 DON, head only, in good condition, is $7k according to speedmaster101.com (though it's arguably in Very Good shape); given the extras, it'd be more. Looks like a great watch, honestly.
Given the scant pictures, here's what I see: dial's free of marks, though the lume seems green (a better pic would obv be useful) and not quite matching the (great) lume in the hands. A near-flawless DON, the case looks excellent (evident brushing, etching clear in the caseback), the bracelet (1039/516) also looks very very good (brushed center, polished ends), and the watch (presumably) comes with its crater box. A 145.022-69 DON, head only, in good condition, is $7k according to speedmaster101.com (though it's arguably in Very Good shape); given the extras, it'd be more. Looks like a great watch, honestly.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorNo dial shot without that bright light reflection, so you can’t even see if it says speedmaster.
Photos from 2ft away
No movement shot.
With not a hint of price.
And you want us to to tell you if you should go for it.
So if that’s how half arse your going to be, just buy it is my view 👍
Photos from 2ft away
No movement shot.
With not a hint of price.
And you want us to to tell you if you should go for it.
So if that’s how half arse your going to be, just buy it is my view 👍
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorObviously it depends a lot on price.
Given the scant pictures, here's what I see: dial's free of marks, though the lume seems green (a better pic would obv be useful) and not quite matching the (great) lume in the hands. A near-flawless DON, the case looks excellent (evident brushing, etching clear in the caseback), the bracelet (1039/516) also looks very very good (brushed center, polished ends), and the watch (presumably) comes with its crater box. A 145.022-69 DON, head only, in good condition, is $7k according to speedmaster101.com (though it's arguably in Very Good shape); given the extras, it'd be more. Looks like a great watch, honestly.
New modern hands ?
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whitewolf777
·Thank you all for your comments an help.
The price is not yet determined. The seller is expecting a price from me.
He says he purchased it in the early 70’s.
I unfortunately do not have better pictures of it but have requested some. Especially of the dial.
I am born in 1969 and would be happy to own a speedy around my age.
Sorry for the missing picture, I loaded twice the same. I am correcting this by adding the correct picture.
But it is blurry as well
The patina seems too fresh to me. I suspect the watch was serviced.
I will try to get better pictures
The price is not yet determined. The seller is expecting a price from me.
He says he purchased it in the early 70’s.
I unfortunately do not have better pictures of it but have requested some. Especially of the dial.
I am born in 1969 and would be happy to own a speedy around my age.
Sorry for the missing picture, I loaded twice the same. I am correcting this by adding the correct picture.
But it is blurry as well
The patina seems too fresh to me. I suspect the watch was serviced.
I will try to get better pictures
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Wlcutter
·Offer $7k USD and see what he says.
I don't see evidence of the watch being serviced--in the first pictures, you can see the pusher tubes are clearly aged/original. The dial's green lume gives pause, but it's not a deal-breaker--I suspect it's original, but obviously that's based on imperfect pictures. You can also tell that the bracelet's full-length (it's connected at the 5th hole in the clasp), which in-and-of-itself ups the value. I'd offer $7k USD and see what he says; you'd be getting a good deal (I think), with enough room to fix potential unforseen problems.
Thank you all for your comments an help.
The price is not yet determined. The seller is expecting a price from me.
He says he purchased it in the early 70’s.
I unfortunately do not have better pictures of it but have requested some. Especially of the dial.
I am born in 1969 and would be happy to own a speedy around my age.
Sorry for the missing picture, I loaded twice the same. I am correcting this by adding the correct picture.
But it is blurry as well
The patina seems too fresh to me. I suspect the watch was serviced.
I will try to get better pictures
I don't see evidence of the watch being serviced--in the first pictures, you can see the pusher tubes are clearly aged/original. The dial's green lume gives pause, but it's not a deal-breaker--I suspect it's original, but obviously that's based on imperfect pictures. You can also tell that the bracelet's full-length (it's connected at the 5th hole in the clasp), which in-and-of-itself ups the value. I'd offer $7k USD and see what he says; you'd be getting a good deal (I think), with enough room to fix potential unforseen problems.
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whitewolf777
·Offer $7k USD and see what he says.
I don't see evidence of the watch being serviced--in the first pictures, you can see the pusher tubes are clearly aged/original. The dial's green lume gives pause, but it's not a deal-breaker--I suspect it's original, but obviously that's based on imperfect pictures. You can also tell that the bracelet's full-length (it's connected at the 5th hole in the clasp), which in-and-of-itself ups the value. I'd offer $7k USD and see what he says; you'd be getting a good deal (I think), with enough room to fix potential unforseen problems.
Thank you very very much for your advice and insight.
It is very precious to me at this stage, and highly appreciated.
I will try to get better pictures in daylight for the dial.
What year do you believe this is from?
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector$7k
The box, DON and bracelet are worth $7k
The box, DON and bracelet are worth $7k
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Wlcutter
·Thank you very very much for your advice and insight.
It is very precious to me at this stage, and highly appreciated.
I will try to get better pictures in daylight for the dial.
What year do you believe this is from?
It's for sure a 145.022-69, but it comes with the crater box, which is fairly specific and post-moon-landing, though I'm not sure quite when. I'd guess the second half of 1969, but you're getting into Qs of manufactured, sold, etc.
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whitewolf777
·I am not a connaisseur as you understood.
I am trying to determine if the hands and dial are period correct.
All help and comments are appreciated.
I am trying to determine if the hands and dial are period correct.
All help and comments are appreciated.
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Aludic
··@SpeedyBirthYearWell, the pictures might not be great, but if I would be in your shoes, I'd comfortably bid 7k. The watch looks to be very complete, has the right parts and bracelet and even comes with a box. Don't underestimate the value of those crater boxes as @STANDY already hinted upon.
So, even if the dial and hands are not period correct, and honestly I think they both are, it would be a great buy at this price. I am 99% sure of the dial. The hands might be service, but are certainly a period-correct type. Better pictures could tell us more, but I'd jump at the opportunity regardless.
So, even if the dial and hands are not period correct, and honestly I think they both are, it would be a great buy at this price. I am 99% sure of the dial. The hands might be service, but are certainly a period-correct type. Better pictures could tell us more, but I'd jump at the opportunity regardless.
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RonJ
·Even though the pictures make it hard to tell, it does seem to be a nice 69 model of Speedy Pro.
You mentioned that the Seller wants you to provide a price.
Does this imply that the Seller is a friend of yours or perhaps a relative?
If they are, then this complicates the deal a bit, since you'd want to offer them a price that is both fair to the Seller and you as the Buyer.
Since it is your Birth Year watch, I think you should definitely make an offer to get it.
BTW, it is a 1969 model design but the month of when it was made can be determined by the movement number, if and when the caseback of the watch is opened.
You might suggest to the Seller the watch photography technique @Syrte mentioned in another thread.
The technique is to place the watch on a table, put an empty coffee cup next to it, set your smart phone on the coffee cup such that the lens of the camera is hanging over the edge of the coffee cup (looking down at the watch) and take a picture of the watch without moving the phone.
This technique does a great job of making a clear, detailed picture of the watch.
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You mentioned that the Seller wants you to provide a price.
Does this imply that the Seller is a friend of yours or perhaps a relative?
If they are, then this complicates the deal a bit, since you'd want to offer them a price that is both fair to the Seller and you as the Buyer.
Since it is your Birth Year watch, I think you should definitely make an offer to get it.
BTW, it is a 1969 model design but the month of when it was made can be determined by the movement number, if and when the caseback of the watch is opened.
You might suggest to the Seller the watch photography technique @Syrte mentioned in another thread.
The technique is to place the watch on a table, put an empty coffee cup next to it, set your smart phone on the coffee cup such that the lens of the camera is hanging over the edge of the coffee cup (looking down at the watch) and take a picture of the watch without moving the phone.
This technique does a great job of making a clear, detailed picture of the watch.
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whitewolf777
·That is a great technique. Thank you for the tip.
The seller is not someone I know. He is someone a friend of mine bought some sport goods from today.
He is a retired man in his 70’s. Luckily he lives 30 minutes away from my home.
Your comments and help convinced me that I should call him up tomorrow and go see the watch.
I am a fair person, so I wanted to be able to offer him a fair deal. With your help the surroundings of the pricing have been fixed. I would like to thank all participants in this conversation for their help and support.
Please feel free to add any comment you like on this thread. I will keep you posted of the advancement.
The seller is not someone I know. He is someone a friend of mine bought some sport goods from today.
He is a retired man in his 70’s. Luckily he lives 30 minutes away from my home.
Your comments and help convinced me that I should call him up tomorrow and go see the watch.
I am a fair person, so I wanted to be able to offer him a fair deal. With your help the surroundings of the pricing have been fixed. I would like to thank all participants in this conversation for their help and support.
Please feel free to add any comment you like on this thread. I will keep you posted of the advancement.
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watchswede
·I just have one little piece of input about the colour of the lume. It might looks green because of the flash from the camera. In that split second the photo is taken and the flash goes off, the tritium reacts and thus shines green?
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whitewolf777
·I just have one little piece of input about the colour of the lume. It might looks green because of the flash from the camera. In that split second the photo is taken and the flash goes off, the tritium reacts and thus shines green?
Thank you for your helpful insight. I did not know this fact. This is adds hope.
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