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bazelot
·Hi, I am looking for advice on this watch. The dial is a little rough but it all looks original to me. Am I correct? How much should i expect to pay for it?
What Do you think of this Speedmaster 105.012?
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Seaborg
·Hello,
That's a 105.012-66 CB.
Case: the -66 CB distinctive facets are still present and are (very) sharp. Overall, the case is in fair condition. I think there is some corrosion around the gasket groove, this is not a good point.
Pushers: good point, the fat-neck pushers are present.
Crown: service crown.
Dial: wide T dial in bad condition. What are those spots on the surface? Looks like mold. Lume is also terrible. I think this watch had a water damage at some point.
Hands: correct hands, lume is gone on hour and minute hands. Heavy damages all around.
Bezel: some major damages all around the bezel, yet the insert itself is not so bad.
Movement: I'm no expert but this watch will need a complete service, somme corrosion is visible on some movement parts.
In conclusion, everything looks OK (original) except the crown. I guess it all depends on what you are ready to pay for it. This could be a nice base for a relume job.
I would personally not go higher than 4000-5000€ for this one.
Cheers
That's a 105.012-66 CB.
Case: the -66 CB distinctive facets are still present and are (very) sharp. Overall, the case is in fair condition. I think there is some corrosion around the gasket groove, this is not a good point.
Pushers: good point, the fat-neck pushers are present.
Crown: service crown.
Dial: wide T dial in bad condition. What are those spots on the surface? Looks like mold. Lume is also terrible. I think this watch had a water damage at some point.
Hands: correct hands, lume is gone on hour and minute hands. Heavy damages all around.
Bezel: some major damages all around the bezel, yet the insert itself is not so bad.
Movement: I'm no expert but this watch will need a complete service, somme corrosion is visible on some movement parts.
In conclusion, everything looks OK (original) except the crown. I guess it all depends on what you are ready to pay for it. This could be a nice base for a relume job.
I would personally not go higher than 4000-5000€ for this one.
Cheers
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hansaboy
·Hi there, and welcome with your exciting project!
Here is a nice link where you can read about this referens:
https://speedmaster101.com/105-012/
The serial nr checks in correct, and as @Seaborg wrote, the watch has a lot of issues, so you must have a service within your budget.
The case and caseback have a lot of "battle scars", I do think it has its charm, but can you live with that??
And the dial is a bit special...?😲
Good luck with your hunt!
Here is a nice link where you can read about this referens:
https://speedmaster101.com/105-012/
The serial nr checks in correct, and as @Seaborg wrote, the watch has a lot of issues, so you must have a service within your budget.
The case and caseback have a lot of "battle scars", I do think it has its charm, but can you live with that??
And the dial is a bit special...?😲
Good luck with your hunt!
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hansaboy
·And regarding value, look in to this link:
https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/
Scroll down to 105012-66 (there is no differens between CB and HF case..).
And to make things worse (maybe), here is an amazing CB...(now sold..)!
https://omegaforums.net/threads/one...-516-unpolished-omega-service-extract.145795/
https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/
Scroll down to 105012-66 (there is no differens between CB and HF case..).
And to make things worse (maybe), here is an amazing CB...(now sold..)!
https://omegaforums.net/threads/one...-516-unpolished-omega-service-extract.145795/
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perenowell
·Can't say better than my friend @Seaborg here...
But for 5k, I'll go for a nice -69 than a poor CB 😀
But for 5k, I'll go for a nice -69 than a poor CB 😀
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Davidt
·For me that’s an ugly watch and as @perenowell says, I’d rather buy a nicer, slightly newer 861 reference such as a -69 or -71, that a very poor -66.
Value is $5k max for me. Ideally less and tbh if offered to me for that price, I wouldn’t buy it.
Value is $5k max for me. Ideally less and tbh if offered to me for that price, I wouldn’t buy it.
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amazonwall
·Getting the watch would be determined by your personal preference. Your are correct when you said the dial is a little rough and it all look original.
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bazelot
·I bought it for $4500 all in.
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBIwould love to get the dial cleaned up
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bazelot
·I'm curious what you mean by cleaned up.
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bazelot
·Can't wait to get it now 😀
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kingsrider
·I think you paid a fair price. I don't think the dial will clean up. My guess is there was moisture in the watch at some point and it caused oxidation under the dial paint. Evidence; rusty stem, multi colored movement and the dial itself.
If it were mine, I would look into a relume a service and make it my daily. It has character.
If it were mine, I would look into a relume a service and make it my daily. It has character.
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bazelot
·I think you paid a fair price. I don't think the dial will clean up. My guess is there was moisture in the watch at some point and it caused oxidation under the dial paint. Evidence; rusty stem, multi colored movement and the dial itself.
If it were mine, I would look into a relume a service and make it my daily. It has character.
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kaplan
·As far as I gather, the "top" restorers actually are good painters, so if those white spots are micro-touched with a matte black paint, it'll likely make the watch look better
Best example is him: https://www.instagram.com/roberto.tarabella_watchmaker/?hl=en
First photos are macro and after photos are almost always in best light / angle and distance, never the same macro shot 😀
Still, I think he does an incredible job, very inspiring, and maybe worth contacting
Best example is him: https://www.instagram.com/roberto.tarabella_watchmaker/?hl=en
First photos are macro and after photos are almost always in best light / angle and distance, never the same macro shot 😀
Still, I think he does an incredible job, very inspiring, and maybe worth contacting
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bazelot
·As far as I gather, the "top" restorers actually are good painters, so if those white spots are micro-touched with a matte black paint, it'll likely make the watch look better
Best example is him: https://www.instagram.com/roberto.tarabella_watchmaker/?hl=en
First photos are macro and after photos are almost always in best light / angle and distance, never the same macro shot 😀
Still, I think he does an incredible job, very inspiring, and maybe worth contacting
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