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What do you think of this 14060?

  1. Cozmopak Oct 23, 2019

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    This one is listed for about 7700 USD, and does not come with box or papers but is listed on Bob’s and is authenticated. I like the patina, which to me, is the major selling point for this watch. The watch has been polished, the chamfers are there but not very sharp. There is also a little bit of metal missing from the right sided lug on the reference side of the watch. What do you guys think?

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  2. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 23, 2019

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    According to my ref materials ... seems all correct. Original bracelet/end links which for me is a big deal. the ding, well its a used tool watch.
     
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  3. CoDiffe Oct 23, 2019

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    My only complaint would be the price. Seems too expensive for no box/papers and avg. condition.
     
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  4. Cozmopak Oct 23, 2019

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    Agree it was on the high side in terms of pricing. Got it down a little, but was willing to pay for the authentication and also that nice patina, which should evolve with time. I’ve been doing a lot of reading on Rolex fakes, and although the 14060 is considered a relatively safe reference, I just couldn’t spend this kind of money without going through a reputable dealer that has authenticated the watch, even if that means spending a few extra hundred dollars.

    Some of the fakes out there are ridiculously good.
     
  5. JPE.88305 Oct 23, 2019

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    Nice patina; price slightly high given no B&P, which hurts given , like you said, the number and quality of fakes... but if you're going to keep and not sell down the road that means less i spose.
     
  6. Cozmopak Oct 23, 2019

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    Very true, but given what I’ve seen selling on Chrono 24 and RolexForums without B/P, this seems like a price that’s within the ballpark, especially when you consider the patina.
     
  7. Dan S Oct 23, 2019

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    You are also paying for a one-year warranty, which gives you some piece of mind. All in all, if you find you love wearing the watch, you won't mind "overpaying" slightly.
     
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  8. Cozmopak Oct 23, 2019

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    Yup, the cost savings was going to be about 500 dollars going through a private sale, and to me the warranty and the authentication were worth the extra money. Also, this one had a particularly nice patina that seemed unique when compared to most other 14060s that I looked at.
     
  9. CoDiffe Oct 23, 2019

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    The patina is good but there is spotting on many of the hour markers. May not bug you but would bug me (I'm used to looking at a mint dial 14060) I have seen plenty of early 90s 14060's with better patina out there box/papers for less. Keep in mind, the box/papers help with authentication. I wouldn't be nearly as worried about a fake early 90s sub as I would re-lumes, replacement parts/frankenwatch etc. I don't think the fakes back then are anything like they are on the fakes now on modern Rolex.

    I guarantee you with patience you could find better condition, patina, and box/papers for same cost or less as this one. Just my two cents. I don't think there's any need to rush into buying this one. There are plenty of them out there.
     
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  10. CoDiffe Oct 23, 2019

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    Also, most dealers provide a 1 year warranty.
     
  11. JwRosenthal Oct 23, 2019

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    Agree with all the above and as a keeper, worth paying a premium. Does Bob perform a factory service on their watches before sale? That would be a huge selling feature and worth $5-700 right there.
     
  12. Cozmopak Oct 23, 2019

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    Patience is definitely a virtue. But at some point, I just want a Rolex. Lol. This one checked off most of my boxes, even though it’s not perfect. I kind of like the imperfections, honestly. Also, definitely not looking to sell any of my watches, ever.
     
  13. Cozmopak Oct 29, 2019

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    Here she is. Did I pay a dealer price? Yes. Would I do it again? Yes. Trusting that this is an authentic Rolex, recently serviced by a Rolex-certified watchmaker, just gives me the piece of mind that I need. I’m not sure if it’s justified, but Rolex scares me more than other brands and I need a little bit of hand-holding when purchasing one.

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  14. JwRosenthal Oct 29, 2019

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    It's a very pretty and honest looking sub- and I agree with your original post about it, the patina is very even and attractive.

    Best part is it's real, and it's yours.

    Congrats!
     
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  15. Cozmopak Oct 29, 2019

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  16. JwRosenthal Oct 29, 2019

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    I mostly agree- but we have had a few veteran members sell them around $6k recently- just depends on the condition, model, and accoutrements. That particular situation, the watch was real- the member had his info hacked.
     
  17. Cozmopak Oct 29, 2019

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    Lowest one I’ve seen on this forum recently was around 6400. Maybe it actually sold for less. Who knows what the agreed upon price was, but it sold in less than one day.
     
  18. JwRosenthal Oct 29, 2019

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    You got a great watch- enjoy it and stop shopping or thinking about the price, you love it, it’s yours-never look back.
     
  19. Cozmopak Oct 29, 2019

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    I know, you’re right. And I do love it!
     
  20. Walrus Oct 29, 2019

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    End of the day you are happy and not financially ruined you are good. You paid more from a reputable place with a warranty. I’ve heard some negative things about bobs but never any fakes. Enjoy that watch