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·By the way, is there a way (details, typo...) to recognize an early tritium service dial or handset (from the 70’/80’) from an original from the 60’
Thanks!
Thanks!
What about this 165.024
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·I don’t think there are any recognised service dials until the 1990s when I guess original parts ran out or manufacturing processes changed.
The lume on later dials is often greener, but this applies to many big triangle dials from the late 1960s too. So the colour variation may in part be due to how much sunlight and/or humidity the watch was exposed to, or what lume mix was used for a particular batch of dials, not necessarily consistent to a time period.
I believe that the dials and bezels used on SM300 are not in a convenient and tidy date order. More that they arrived in batches from different manufacturers, to meet demand. Omega seem to have had trouble getting enough parts made in this period and sourced parts from several different manufacturers to keep the supply chain fluid.
The lume on later dials is often greener, but this applies to many big triangle dials from the late 1960s too. So the colour variation may in part be due to how much sunlight and/or humidity the watch was exposed to, or what lume mix was used for a particular batch of dials, not necessarily consistent to a time period.
I believe that the dials and bezels used on SM300 are not in a convenient and tidy date order. More that they arrived in batches from different manufacturers, to meet demand. Omega seem to have had trouble getting enough parts made in this period and sourced parts from several different manufacturers to keep the supply chain fluid.
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·I don’t think there are any recognised service dials until the 1990s when I guess original parts ran out or manufacturing processes changed.
The lume on later dials is often greener, but this applies to many big triangle dials from the late 1960s too. So the colour variation may in part be due to how much sunlight and/or humidity the watch was exposed to, or what lume mix was used for a particular batch of dials, not necessarily consistent to a time period.
I believe that the dials and bezels used on SM300 are not in a convenient and tidy date order. More that they arrived in batches from different manufacturers, to meet demand. Omega seem to have had trouble getting enough parts made in this period and sourced parts from several different manufacturers to keep the supply chain fluid.
thanks!
So actually in this case, we know it’s a service dial and handset because of a previous description, but if it had never been disclosed, it could have been evaluated as original to the watch?
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·Wait a sec, I thought there are no BT service dials?!
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It's not a service dial this one - didn't say that anywhere.
It's an old correct BT dial (minty green and NOS, but still) that was used as a replacement for the authentic dial during a service back in the day. The last batches of old dials were of course used up in the years after regular production stopped - for service purposes. And some were keept in the drawers.
But it's still not authentic to the watch. Nor the bezel. And that caseback. Well... IMO etc.
Regarding service dials, that is, dials that were produced after normal production of 16x.024 watches/parts stopped... that's another story. Let me just say that (I believe) there were different types produced before the know SL variants from the 90'ies and onwards. More on that in the future 📖 ;-)
It's an old correct BT dial (minty green and NOS, but still) that was used as a replacement for the authentic dial during a service back in the day. The last batches of old dials were of course used up in the years after regular production stopped - for service purposes. And some were keept in the drawers.
But it's still not authentic to the watch. Nor the bezel. And that caseback. Well... IMO etc.
Regarding service dials, that is, dials that were produced after normal production of 16x.024 watches/parts stopped... that's another story. Let me just say that (I believe) there were different types produced before the know SL variants from the 90'ies and onwards. More on that in the future 📖 ;-)
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·It's not a service dial this one - didn't say that anywhere.
It's an old correct BT dial (minty green and NOS, but still) that was used as a replacement for the authentic dial during a service back in the day. The last batches of old dials were of course used up in the years after regular production stopped - for service purposes. And some were keept in the drawers.
But it's still not authentic to the watch. Nor the bezel. And that caseback. Well... IMO etc.
Regarding service dials, that is, dials that were produced after normal production of 16x.024 watches/parts stopped... that's another story. Let me just say that (I believe) there were different types produced before the know SL variants from the 90'ies and onwards. More on that in the future 📖 ;-)
thanks for those précisions! So in the end the main problem is that caseback (so it’s definitely a 166.024 altered in 165?).
I love the idea of finding perfectly original untouched watches, but we all know that’s extremely rare and most of the time unprovable... Had this dial and hands swap not been disclosed, could it have been a believable package? (again, minus the caseback)
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·With regards to the caseback this is not the first over-stamped 166/165 case back I have seen. Omega were over stamping to make up for a lack of stock as far as I can see. This is on a military case. Almost exactly the same.
