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  1. gordonian

    gordonian Aug 14, 2019

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    Ladies and Gentlemen
    Please be kind as I am a new member,I have recently become the owner of Omega Weems 6B 159 4491/40 watch S/N 8954195 internal case number 9947650 see attached photos.I was hoping that all of the experts/specialist could point me in the right direction for research into the original order and maybe the original airman/navigator it was issued to
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  2. JimJupiter

    JimJupiter Aug 14, 2019

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    Wow cool, I had one too beginning of the year, but in general they are super rare! To find the name of the original pilot is impossible I think, but you can order an extract of the archive of Omegas heritage service. This will tell you when this watch was issued.

    I just have some doubts about your hands and the dial. Your hands looks weired, but mabye its due to perspective.

    This was mine and a screen from the Omega Bible:
     
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  3. LarryG

    LarryG not KennyG, not OG, just LarryG Aug 14, 2019

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    Really lovely and great to see it on a bonklip.
    Hands appear correct, though dial does not.
     
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  4. gordonian

    gordonian Aug 14, 2019

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    Guys the watch recently had a renovation from a reputable restorer and the face was redone by professional people
    I love this timepiece and so proud when I wear it from time to time
     
  5. KingCrouchy

    KingCrouchy Aug 14, 2019

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    That's very unfortunate, as this destroys most of the value of the watch. But you love it, that's what matters.:thumbsup:
     
  6. Lonestar

    Lonestar insert Schwartz joke HERE Aug 14, 2019

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    in most cases it really depends about how badly damaged the original dial is...

    And as you said what really matters is how the owner of likes the watch!!
     
  7. gordonian

    gordonian Aug 14, 2019

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    I’m sure it does but apparently the face was in a very poor and bad condition the face is now as it was when produced but as you say I love it
     
  8. Syrte

    Syrte Aug 14, 2019

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    IMHO on an issued Omega Weems "most of the value of the watch" is a bit overstated.
    If I had to speculate I'd say the refinished dial destroys 50% of value versus 85 percent of value on a regular civilian vintage.
    But it still has significant historical value and looks kick ass on the wrist.

    @LarryG it seems to me like the minute hand looks like it comes from an "economy watch" - and the seconds hand seems like it's missing a counterpoise. No?
     
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  9. w154

    w154 Aug 14, 2019

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    I think the second hand counterpoise is hiding over the hour hand.
     
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  10. Martin_J_N

    Martin_J_N Aug 14, 2019

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    There is a lot of debate about whether you should have total originality in vintage watches, some will be upset if any changes to the watch are made irrespective of how sympathetic they are as the changes can (maybe even will) destroy the value of the watch. For others like yourself its all about whether you like the watch, and you do so the monetary value is immaterial.

    So, enjoy your watch, it is very different and it looks great.
     
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  11. gordonian

    gordonian Aug 14, 2019

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    Thank you guys and I appreciate your kind comments but for me it’s very special as my uncle was a officer navigator in 77 Squadron and my mother’s first husband was shot down by an ME110 September 1940 with 152 Squadron so the watch has a special place in my heart
     
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  12. LarryG

    LarryG not KennyG, not OG, just LarryG Aug 14, 2019

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    @Syrte. I've seen a couple of slight variations, but what the 'ell do I know.

    As to the dial, I think you're spot on vis-a-vis value.
     
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  13. Syrte

    Syrte Aug 14, 2019

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    This is not just any WWII military watch, it’s rare (for once) and it’s a special case where the conventional wisdom does not apply. Hence— please see comments above on value. This is a specialty item and experts will have a different perception from the general vintage watch enthusiasts.
     
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  14. gordonian

    gordonian Aug 14, 2019

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    As I said before it’s special for me to be the custodian and will treasure it
     
  15. Martin_J_N

    Martin_J_N Aug 14, 2019

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    I don't disagree with anything that you say and I appreciate that there are special circumstances involved but sometimes it's not about value.
     
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