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My story...



The parts watch with the original strap:



Sorry, not very big, but it was probably a medium brown when new, it is sewn onto the lugs, so box stitch near the lugs, and stitched down the side. Also unpadded. If you come across anything remotely similar at 5/8" or 16mm, let me know!

Hope you enjoyed it!

Tom

Hi Tom, I have been messing around with leather projects and working my way up to something as delicate as a watch strap. In my warehouse (a grocery bag) I have some leather from an old bomber jacket. I’d back it with some vegetable-tanned sheepskin. PM me some detailed measurements and better photos and I’d be happy to give it a go making it for you - no cost, just a thanks for your contributions to OF. I could send some extra thread and loan two needles if you’d be comfortable sewing it onto the lugs. I have found a YouTube video on saddle stitching that’d walk you though it. Would this leather would float your boat?
 
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Tuesday, April 14. Another watch with a story. Ready or not.

Two years ago, I was in a friend’s jewellery store. He had just inherited the estate of his late mother whose father had been in the jewellery business in Regina, Saskatchewan. Amongst the items were four ladie’s watches, and a gent’s Omega bumper, circa early 1950s. He had in mind a barter deal. He wanted the ladie’s watches fixed up to give to lady relatives. If I was willing, then the Omega watch would be mine. How could I turn down a deal like that? Had a lot of people had a look at the particular Omega had a chance to evaluate it, they may have turned the deal down. It was “rough”!

The case is gold filled. It looked to me as though someone had deliberately set out to demolish it. Lugs badly bent, gold covering the case chewed through to the base metal in many places. The dial, a mess. But surprisingly, the movement had survived in quite good condition. It has a calibre 351, 17-jewel movement in it.

Amongst the stuff I inherited from my late father (he’d been a watchmaker), I inherited a cough drop tin with the name OMEGA on the lid. I had visited that can before. See the previous story in this thread of my date-at-six Omega bumper. Lo and behold, what do I find but a decent stainless steel Omega case of the correct size, style, and vintage! And a much better dial. The Omega needed a case clamp which is generally unavailable, so I had to fabricate one. Result: recondition the movement, fit the replacement dial, fit a crystal, crown, hour hand, and replacement case clamp. Fit the whole thing into the donor case, and here is the result. Many collectors would look down their noses at a watch like this. Foolish pride! This survivor is a good performer, and a pleasure to wear.

 
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A fairly short story here, but my most treasured watch. You all are familiar with the model. It was given to my Dad for his college graduation in 1971, by my grandfather. The caseback is engraved (almost certainly) by my grandfather's own hand. At some point it must have had significant dial damage, and was redialed. I still have the original repainted dial. I don't ever remember my dad wearing it, but it was on his dresser. He always told me it was the type of watch they wore on the moon, and that it represents the pinnacle of mechanical watches. The second point is debatable for but it is and always will be my favorite watch. This is the watch that brought me to Omega Forums.

Here is the watch with the redail:



Here is how it looks today:

Lovely watch , I think it looks great on the steel bracelet...looks great on just about anything, to be honest! I´d been toying for some months with the idea of buying a new Speedy (hesalite crystal model is the one I want!) at my local Omega Boutique, and was just about to buy it when they had to close down when lockdown started here. I´ll just have to be patient now...!
 
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Thank you for your contribution to the watches with a story thread. Because links to images are known to disappear, I have taken the liberty of adding pictures of your Speedmaster to the thread.

 
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Still Tuesday. My how time drags when you are becoming accustomed to being housebound. Here’s another story, but it also might be useful from an information point of view. I’m going to tell the story of one Waltham in my collection, and I am going to compare that Waltham with a Waltham I included in an earlier contribution to this thread.

A number of years ago, I got a call from a pawn shop. A customer had come in with a 23-jewel Waltham Vanguard he wanted to sell for $300.00. He was uneasy with the purchase because he knew beans about watches. I asked him a number of questions, and his answers led me to making a beeline for his store, $300.00 in hand.

The story is that the original owner of this Waltham, bought it in the late 1950s, in a small town in Southern Alberta. At the same time, he bought a felt lined pocket watch protector case made of steel. He put the watch into it he got home, and stuck it in a drawer where it remained until the early 1970s. As he grew older, he realized it was time to let the Waltham go, so he called a friend. I don’t know what sort of a deal transpired, but his friend ended up with the watch, still in its protective case.

Fast forward to the mid 1990s, and the second owner likewise, decided to move the Waltham along. He had left the watch in its steel case, and stuck it into a drawer, and never used it. This is where the pawn shop became involved. I got to the shop and liked what I saw. I bought it. The watch.

This is a 23-jewel Waltham Vanguard produced toward the end of the Waltham Watch Co. as a manufacturer. As near as I can figure, this watch was from the second last run of this model, having been made circa the mid 1950s. This model of Vanguard is not as sought after as the earlier vintages of Vanguard. It is every bit as capable of performing to railroad standards, and has one advantage over the earlier ones. It is anti-magnetic!

Among the features of this vintage of Vanguard that collectors don’t prefer is the very plain finish on the nickel plates, the melamine dial, and the jewels having been set directly into the plates. I’ll show the subject watch separately from the Vanguard I included in an earlier post in this thread. I have shown the back of the case to give an idea of little use this watch has had. You are looking at the original “butler” (brushed) texture on the case back. I am sure this 65 year old watch was never used.





Note that the jewels are set the Swiss way, just pressed into the plates with no chaton. The finish is very plain. The melamine dial was a much cheaper alternative to vitreous enamel. It was a resin applied to a brass substrate, and lacks the vitreous sheen of enamel it is a waxy texture, and not a pure white colour.

Next, I’ll show a much earlier Vanguard that I posted in this thread, several days ago. This one was made circa the mid 1920s. Take note the beautiful damask finish on the plates, and the genuine ruby jewels (not synthetic like the earlier one), the jewels held in gold chatons which are held in place with polished steel screws, and the double-sunk vitreous enamel dial. This is the prettiest watch movement in my collection.

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Lovely watch , I think it looks great on the steel bracelet...looks great on just about anything, to be honest! I´d been toying for some months with the idea of buying a new Speedy (hesalite crystal model is the one I want!) at my local Omega Boutique, and was just about to buy it when they had to close down when lockdown started here. I´ll just have to be patient now...!

It is a great watch, you won't regret it.
 
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This is a relative short and common story in comparison to what others have shared with us previously, but still, this watch - and how it became mine - is important to me.

To most, the Speedmaster Pro below is just another “run of the mill” watch, especially on this forum where we get so used to seeing this model day after day. My reality is that it is likely the one in my collection that has the most sentimental value!

This watch was purchased in 1988 by the wife of one of my dear friends to mark his 50th birthday. My friend, Armand, spent most of his life as a member of the French Marine Nationale and eventually got the “flying bug” and became a private pilot, flying cessnas around France and parts of Europe. He was a real adventurer at heart, and I always looked up to him when I grew up as a teenager.

At the time I started to get into watches with the purchase of my Bond Seamaster 300 (may be an upcoming story about what should have been my “only watch”?), in 1998, I remember noticing his Omega chrono, but I didn’t think much more about it for another 20 years or so. In the meantime, I had become a real Omega fan boy, and on one of the many occasions when paying a visit to Armand, I actually asked him about “that big Omega chrono watch” he used to wear “back in the day.” Within a few minutes, he had located the watch in one of his drawers, no longer on its original bracelet, but on a dressy brown croc band... which struck me as being quite a contrast to all the battle scars that the watch had!! Clearly, he had not babied this watch and had worn it well over the years!!

As I was examining the watch, his wife suggested that he should gift it to me since he was no longer wearing it or using it. I could see some surprise and, frankly, sadness in his eyes, so I immediately refused the offer. I could nevertheless see that this comment had caught his attention and that the wheels were turning in his head. He then said: “yes, someday it will be his, but just not yet!” I almost felt a bit embarrassed at the situation, as it had never crossed my mind to even get his watch (even though they had no children), so I just politely declined the thought anyway.

Over the course of the next couple of years, I would see Armand and his wife each time I returned to France, and while I never broached the watch topic again, Armand was always reminding me of “his promise” when we were saying our goodbyes, but I would just tell him that I wished for him to keep it as long as possible.

On one of these visits in the Summer of 2018, I brought my son with me to pay them a visit as we were about to fly back home later that day. By then, Armand’s health had severely declined, and he and his wife were now under the constant care of an aide at home. We were recounting the good old days of us playing tarot (the card game, not the fortune telling kind) together, and we were so happy walking back down memory lane together. At that moment, he asked the aide to please help him get something from his dresser, and after a couple of minutes, they came back, and he presented the watch to me, asking me to take it with me as he felt that the moment had now come, and he was worried that the watch might someday “walk away” by itself.

I had a really hard time accepting this gift, as it seemed to signify much more about our journey together in life than just “receiving his watch.” He insisted, and a lot of tears were shed in that moment. The picture below is of me wearing the watch for the first time while sitting on the plane that brought me and my son back home.

Since then, I have removed a good portion of the wrist cheese the watch had, noticed that it was likely never serviced as it still has that “red dot” on the case back, installed a 1450/808 bracelet on it (probably not the type that was initially installed, but good looking anyway), and have been marveling at how well it is still running, 32 years after having been manufactured and after heavy usage!!

Armand is stil with us, but his health has now declined so much that he and his wife are living in an assisted living facility. It is just a great reminder that while we all want to accumulate “stuff” in this world, at the end of the day, we will not take any of it with us. I have been fortunate to collect quite a number of great watches, but my son and I will always remember why we have this “plain vanilla” Speedmaster, and it will always remind us of our dear friend Armand. My son will inherit the watch someday. I am hoping he will remember the day we “inherited it” and look fondly at the times we spent in France together.

Well, sadly today I need to follow-up on this story, having received the sad news of the passing of my friend Armand!!

Godspeed Armand, and RIP! 🙁
 
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Well, sadly today I need to follow-up on this story, having received the sad news of the passing of my friend Armand!!

Godspeed Armand, and RIP! 🙁

I am sorry for your loss. I am glad you have a watch to remind you of a special man.
 
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Since your son will eventually inherit the watch, it will be even more meaningful to him, having met Armand.
 
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I am sorry for your loss. I am glad you have a watch to remind you of a special man.
Since your son will eventually inherit the watch, it will be even more meaningful to him, having met Armand.
Thank you guys!!
 
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Lovely story and RIP Armand. Wonderful memories you have of him.

This is a relative short and common story in comparison to what others have shared with us previously, but still, this watch - and how it became mine - is important to me.

To most, the Speedmaster Pro below is just another “run of the mill” watch, especially on this forum where we get so used to seeing this model day after day. My reality is that it is likely the one in my collection that has the most sentimental value!

This watch was purchased in 1988 by the wife of one of my dear friends to mark his 50th birthday. My friend, Armand, spent most of his life as a member of the French Marine Nationale and eventually got the “flying bug” and became a private pilot, flying cessnas around France and parts of Europe. He was a real adventurer at heart, and I always looked up to him when I grew up as a teenager.

At the time I started to get into watches with the purchase of my Bond Seamaster 300 (may be an upcoming story about what should have been my “only watch”?), in 1998, I remember noticing his Omega chrono, but I didn’t think much more about it for another 20 years or so. In the meantime, I had become a real Omega fan boy, and on one of the many occasions when paying a visit to Armand, I actually asked him about “that big Omega chrono watch” he used to wear “back in the day.” Within a few minutes, he had located the watch in one of his drawers, no longer on its original bracelet, but on a dressy brown croc band... which struck me as being quite a contrast to all the battle scars that the watch had!! Clearly, he had not babied this watch and had worn it well over the years!!

As I was examining the watch, his wife suggested that he should gift it to me since he was no longer wearing it or using it. I could see some surprise and, frankly, sadness in his eyes, so I immediately refused the offer. I could nevertheless see that this comment had caught his attention and that the wheels were turning in his head. He then said: “yes, someday it will be his, but just not yet!” I almost felt a bit embarrassed at the situation, as it had never crossed my mind to even get his watch (even though they had no children), so I just politely declined the thought anyway.

Over the course of the next couple of years, I would see Armand and his wife each time I returned to France, and while I never broached the watch topic again, Armand was always reminding me of “his promise” when we were saying our goodbyes, but I would just tell him that I wished for him to keep it as long as possible.

On one of these visits in the Summer of 2018, I brought my son with me to pay them a visit as we were about to fly back home later that day. By then, Armand’s health had severely declined, and he and his wife were now under the constant care of an aide at home. We were recounting the good old days of us playing tarot (the card game, not the fortune telling kind) together, and we were so happy walking back down memory lane together. At that moment, he asked the aide to please help him get something from his dresser, and after a couple of minutes, they came back, and he presented the watch to me, asking me to take it with me as he felt that the moment had now come, and he was worried that the watch might someday “walk away” by itself.

I had a really hard time accepting this gift, as it seemed to signify much more about our journey together in life than just “receiving his watch.” He insisted, and a lot of tears were shed in that moment. The picture below is of me wearing the watch for the first time while sitting on the plane that brought me and my son back home.

Since then, I have removed a good portion of the wrist cheese the watch had, noticed that it was likely never serviced as it still has that “red dot” on the case back, installed a 1450/808 bracelet on it (probably not the type that was initially installed, but good looking anyway), and have been marveling at how well it is still running, 32 years after having been manufactured and after heavy usage!!

Armand is stil with us, but his health has now declined so much that he and his wife are living in an assisted living facility. It is just a great reminder that while we all want to accumulate “stuff” in this world, at the end of the day, we will not take any of it with us. I have been fortunate to collect quite a number of great watches, but my son and I will always remember why we have this “plain vanilla” Speedmaster, and it will always remind us of our dear friend Armand. My son will inherit the watch someday. I am hoping he will remember the day we “inherited it” and look fondly at the times we spent in France together.

Epilog on April 15, 2020:

Well, sadly today I need to follow-up on this story, having received the sad news of the passing of my friend Armand on Saturday April 11th, 2020, a few days short of his 90th birthday. 🙁

Godspeed Armand, and RIP! We will never forget you and we will be enjoying your watch in your memory.

 
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A 1902 Waltham Seaside, seven jewel, that belonged to my great grandmother Augusta (Guzzie) Awe. The photo is a tintype of her taken in 1875 when she was five years old. The watch went to my Grandfather, Fred Pankow, then through my father to me about two years ago when he passed at the age of 93. It is still quite beautiful and one of the main reason I’ve gotten so into watches. My wife wears it when she want to dress up her jeans, and yes it’s been serviced. I think what most fascinated me is that these mechanical marvels were around and very similar to today’s mechanical watches back when the flintlock rifle was modern weaponry.
 
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A 1902 Waltham Seaside, seven jewel, that belonged to my great grandmother Augusta (Guzzie) Awe. The photo is a tintype of her taken in 1875 when she was five years old. The watch went to my Grandfather, Fred Pankow, then through my father to me about two years ago when he passed at the age of 93. It is still quite beautiful and one of the main reason I’ve gotten so into watches. My wife wears it when she want to dress up her jeans, and yes it’s been serviced. I think what most fascinated me is that these mechanical marvels were around and very similar to today’s mechanical watches back when the flintlock rifle was modern weaponry.
 
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I recently uploaded a post to the MB showing a Hamilton, 18-size, grade 927 pocket watch which I serviced some years ago.

The story about how I came to own that watch is a bit of a downer.

About 40 years ago, I attended a garage sale at which a fellow was selling off the contents of his deceased father who was a watchmaker. I bought a bunch of stuff. Then, about 25 years or so ago, on a Tuesday, this same fellow phoned me and told me he had a very rare and valuable Hamilton pocket watch he needed to sell. He brought it over. The watch was a Hamilton grade 927, 17-jewel model which was originally in a gold filled hunter case. When he showed it to me, it was all there, it ran, but it was in an open-faced nickel silver replacement case. Not rare, not valuable, and far from original. I made him an offer ($275.00 Cdn.) which I felt was fair, considering the watch. He tried to pump me for more, but I stood my ground. He sold it to me.

Three days later, I read of a murder-suicide in our local newspaper! You’ll never guess who it was!
 
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You’ll never guess who it was!
Not you!, thank goodness. Good thing you made a fair offer, Doug!
I don't want to be disrespectful of an acquaintance but I wonder why would the price matter much if his plans were such?
 
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I was just about to start contributing to this thread with many interesting watch stories we have but since Canuck seems to be running this thread, and made such a callous remark to "Dennis" on the day of his partner's funeral I will pass. Bear in mind you old f@#k...Dennis might be gone for a while but I'm still here and you are going to pay for that remark over and over again.
 
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I was just about to start contributing to this thread with many interesting watch stories we have but since Canuck seems to be running this thread, and made such a callous remark to "Dennis" on the day of his partner's funeral I will pass. Bear in mind you old f@#k...Dennis might be gone for a while but I'm still here and you are going to pay for that remark over and over again.

I didn't process @Canuck's post, but I agree it was very insensitive. However, do you know @Canuck had any idea the Dennis's partner recently died or that it was the day of the funeral. Dennis has been known to rub people the wrong way. Without knowledge of recent events, I think @Canuck's remarks were that far out of line. I don't think he deserves the threats and abuse. I think a comment like "pull your foot out of your mouth and apologize to Dennis would be much more appropriate."
 
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You can comment as you like. "Threats and abuse"? Gimme a freakin break.
 
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I was just about to start contributing to this thread with many interesting watch stories we have but since Canuck seems to be running this thread, and made such a callous remark to "Dennis" on the day of his partner's funeral I will pass. Bear in mind you old f@#k...Dennis might be gone for a while but I'm still here and you are going to pay for that remark over and over again.

Unfortunately, Christmas is past. But I invite you to observe the mistletoe on my coat tails!