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  1. 50s60sChild Nov 18, 2016

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    Can someone explain to me how a watch over 70 years old can have such a flawless dial? How can one tell the difference between a refinished dial and a flawless dial as seen in the photograph above?

    Is it mostly a matter of believing the seller?

    thanks
     
  2. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Nov 18, 2016

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    The seller has a good reputation. Most of his watches have a refinished dial but he is explicit about this in his descriptions. In this case he says that the dial is guaranteed untouched since it left the factory.

    In addition, dials often degrade because of water ingress. If the watch has been well sealed then there is less change of degradation over time.
     
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  3. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 19, 2016

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    The dial looks original to me. Sometimes, especially the nonluminous ones, don't age terribly much. Also, it's a jumbo.

    Here's a well-preserved one of mine with similar dial...perhaps slightly more patina.

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  4. ulackfocus Nov 19, 2016

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    Mike usually gets top dollar for his watches. He certainly is a good seller and all around decent guy.
     
  5. marturx Nov 19, 2016

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    It's mostly about trusting your experience and instincts. Secondly it's about buying the seller.

    OP's watch looks fine to me. It's neither refinished nor flawless
     
  6. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Nov 19, 2016

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    Can I haz dibs!?

    ::love::
     
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  7. Josh-L Nov 19, 2016

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    I like that one Adam posted way better than the eBay one!
     
  8. Tubber Nov 19, 2016

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    Someone been asking for a BIN on the Ebay one :whistling: ::stirthepot::.
     
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  9. aap Nov 20, 2016

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    Dibs too pls :)
     
  10. Tom Dick and Harry Nov 20, 2016

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    They do still exist out there! Proved how's well made they where in the first place

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  11. Tom Dick and Harry Nov 21, 2016

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    A brother from another mother but again proof that time warp watches do exist! 33mm tissot antimag with a dial to die for

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  12. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 21, 2016

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    I think climate has a big impact too, this was clearly not a watch that spent its life in Singapore for example.
     
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  13. Jungle Jim Nov 23, 2016

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    Looks like it was sniped at the last 3 seconds for a bid of $2500 US. Interesting to look at the last minute of bids. It went from $1603 to a final price of $2500 with a total of 52 bids over the course of the auction.
     
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  14. Sanmilc Nov 24, 2016

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    Wow that is a nice well preserve watch.... 2.500 USD ::facepalm2::
     
  15. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Nov 24, 2016

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    Ohlala! Never expected to go that high! :eek:
     
  16. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Nov 24, 2016

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    Here's my old timer. 1917. Stem has some eccentricities on the Chrono function but it looks and runs like a champ. It's a matter of having owners that cared. This one apparently had been in the same family for generations.

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  17. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Nov 24, 2016

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    Terrific watch! Never seen one like that before. Dibbs!
     
  18. WatchVaultNYC Nov 24, 2016

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    Unlike your nice 70 year old watches, this one looks like it went through a luftwaffe bombing

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  19. padders Oooo subtitles! Nov 25, 2016

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    I guess it depends on how the dial is made. There are millions of pocket watches out there from the 1800s and in some cases 1700s with unmarked perfect dials, though no form of lume was used then which may help on that score.
     
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  20. durri70 May 21, 2019

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    Still exist untouched dials but very hard to get them plus they are expensive

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