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  1. nxw1969 Dec 30, 2014

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    Do any of you guys have any suggestions for watch insurance in the UK?

    Do you have individual policies for your watches and which companies if any, are aimed at insuring vintage watches?

    Thanks
    Nick
     
  2. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 30, 2014

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    TH March - don't have number to hand.

    Most watches can be covered in your home insurance if they are listed with a value.

    Personally I have only certain ones insured as most are covered up to a certain amount anyway.
     
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  3. nxw1969 Dec 30, 2014

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    Thanks D
     
  4. Coasties37 Dec 30, 2014

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    All expensive time pieces and Jewelry should be covered under a separate policy call Personal Property coverage. This will ensure that you will get reimbursed for the full " Replacement" cost of the item in case of lost, stolen or even misplaced. Keep in mind this is different from Homeowner insurance, this coverage will only pay partial reimbursement for your watches. Every Insurance Company is different so please check with them for your specific needs. My current company is USAA and they have been great, they paid my wife's ring when she lost it doing white water rafting.
     
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  5. ron n Dec 30, 2014

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    USAA is the best however not everyone can join.
     
  6. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 30, 2014

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    Mine are covered new for old on the house and the higher end value pieces are insured separately.
     
  7. MikiJ Likes songs about Purple spices Dec 30, 2014

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    CHUBB - You get more than you pay for and you pay!
     
  8. nxw1969 Dec 31, 2014

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    Thanks all
     
  9. citizenrich Metal Mixer! Jan 5, 2015

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    I'm certain in our shrinking world that rates in the UK are identical (plus 20%) of the U.S..

    Rule of the thumb is 150 basis points (1.5%) of insured value (per year).

    Your mileage may vary but not by much...
     
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  10. KstateSkier Jan 5, 2015

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    I have a personal articles policy with State Farm that covers my Omega and my wedding ring. No deductible, $128 for the year.
     
  11. repoman Jan 5, 2015

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    I have an appointment with my Farmers insurance agent today; reviewing my homeowners policy for watches and jewelry, and I will be doing a personal articles policy for some of my watches (in particular my new Grey Side). Homeowners policies usually are very limited in how much they will cover per item, as well as how much total they will reimburse. Homeowners policies usually only apply to fire, theft, etc... not negligence like dropping a ceramic watch on the tile floor ::censored::

    I think the most important thing is just know what your policy says so there are no surprises if disaster strikes.

    EDIT: Bottom line, my farmers insurance is not really competitive here: 0 deductible would be around 2.15% annual premium. Jewelers Mutual is around 1.5%.
     
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  12. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 5, 2015

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    In the UK each item listed on homeowners insurance with a value of over £3000 has to be listed separately the cover is usually 'Cost to Replace' and they normally pay out that value minus any excess. All items over £3k have to be listed I.e Rolex Daytona Wristwatch. I have had to have mine valued individually and sent to the insurers as a 'Collection Valuation'

    Most are listed worldwide and restrictions are enforced depending on how May pieces are in the collection this includes a safe with a good cash rating, normally £4k, the safe bolted to the floor, and home security with link to police or a security company.

    In the US I'm sure it's different and for foreigners (like me) they screw us royally for money!

    I take photos of every watch I own and store externally in The Cloud, that way if anything does go wrong I have full images of every watch for insurance purposes.
     
  13. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 5, 2015

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    Hey guys,

    In terms of value, how do you get a watch valuated? I've bought a few online and they don't come with receipts or anything.. do insurance companies care? Is there an official way to put a price on a used watch?

    Thx,

    J
     
  14. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 5, 2015

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    You normally take them to a jeweller and ask for an insurance valuation. They compose a full listing of the piece(s) and then send you a copy and one for the insurers.
     
  15. Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Jan 5, 2015

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    In the UK, the insurance companies don't pay any attention to a receipt for a used item. They insist on valuations and you have to pay for those valuations. My insurance company want a valuation every three years for watches between £3,000 and £5,000 and annually for those worth over £5,000. Bearing in mind that, typically it costs between £60 and £100 each for the £3 - 5,000 watches and £120 to £150 for the £5,000+ watches, this can get quite expensive. Also bear in mind the annual monitoring cost for an intruder alarm and the cost of an approved safe. Then, of course, there is the cost of the insurance.
     
  16. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 5, 2015

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    Thanks guys.

    For a vintage piece, how does replacement work? Would a jewler know how to value a 40 year old watch? And what would it be replaced with if lost or stolen?
     
  17. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 5, 2015

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    Yes correct - Some dealers do a valuation day(s) with reduced costs for valuations. Luckily for me mine were done for a bottle of scotch and a bottle of vodka to the staff. :)
     
  18. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 5, 2015

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    They normally know rough values if they are good independent watch dealers or jewellers. Find a company that specialises in vintage watches that will help.
     
  19. Shem Jan 5, 2015

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    In my experience, most jewelers don't really know much about watches in general. :p It's funny to have to get an appraisal for insurance purposes from someone who knows vastly less about watches in general, or a particular piece, than you do. I suppose people probably know almost nothing about the watches they buy, and the various services seem to be marketed to those people. But it's weird when you're an expert in watches, but not a "jeweler" or "appraiser" as such.
     
  20. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jan 5, 2015

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    I wonder if an insurance company would take a print of a forum thread instead of a jewler valuation. ;)

    But seriously, say I get a $1000 valuation on a vintage watch that is then stolen. Does the insurance company cut a cheque for $1000 and then it's up to me to go find a new one?

    /dumb/noob