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Walking down the street and found this Speedy..Oh Boy.

  1. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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  2. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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    It was in the showcase of an old watch dealer in NYC. I have never seen a red hand but, he swears it is original. It has straight writing on the back and was the most chocolate dial I had ever seen. Now I am trying to pry it from his hands..
     
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  3. Spacefruit

    Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 10, 2015

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    He can swear all he likes but I have seen no evidence that this is likely to be original from the factory. It doesn't look like the other orange hands I have seen on Speedmasters.

    The h/m hands look in better condition than the dial, suggesting that they did not share their entire lives together.

    None of which would stop me trying to buy it.......
     
  4. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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    If he will sell it, I will buy it and switch out the hands for certain. The dial is crazy nice in person, but the lume is shot.
     
  5. Frunkinator

    Frunkinator Keep tickin & tockin, work it all around the clock Mar 10, 2015

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    Interesting find. How much is he asking for it.
     
  6. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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    He wants $4000, but he "doesnt want to sell it"
     
  7. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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    Its also got a 1039 bracelet on it which I think is incorrect.
     
  8. Frunkinator

    Frunkinator Keep tickin & tockin, work it all around the clock Mar 10, 2015

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    Sounds like a FrankenSpeedy
     
  9. lenny

    lenny Mar 10, 2015

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    I think that the red hand may be from a chronostop.

    Also, you're a brave soul to deal with a NY used watch dealer. I've lived here most of my life and I would rather chance it with ebay/the forums...even when the photos are blurry!
     
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  10. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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    Regardless, it has original case, case back, bezel, dial and movement. Changing out the hands is nothing, the meat of the watch is all there and it happens to be a fairly rare straight back and deep chocolate dial. I hope he sells it, I will make her a beauty..
     
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    Edited Mar 11, 2015
  12. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Mar 10, 2015

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    Looks like he has some other decent pieces too :)
     
  13. Varnado

    Varnado Mar 10, 2015

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    I dont think he "lied" I think he believes it to be original as he has owned the watch for 30+ years this way. I would check the movement and open it before I bought it but, this guy is no liar. A hard negotiator and true salesmen, but hes not intentionally lying.
     
  14. Kringkily

    Kringkily Omega Collector Mar 10, 2015

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    That the chinatown dealer guy?
     
  15. justwatching

    justwatching Mar 11, 2015

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    even though its the wrong chrono hand and lume is shot. That chocolate dial makes up for it!
     
  16. Darlinboy

    Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Mar 11, 2015

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    If he named a price, he wants to sell it. If the dial is as you say, the other issues are relatively easy to fix.
     
  17. justwatching

    justwatching Mar 11, 2015

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    Reverse physcology so you'll offer more rather than haggle
     
  18. Frunkinator

    Frunkinator Keep tickin & tockin, work it all around the clock Mar 11, 2015

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    All you vintage experts would know better then most, is 4k even worth it for this piece?
     
  19. Time Exposure

    Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Mar 11, 2015

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    On its 1039 bracelet, probably. Looks true chocolate if you're into the defect thing, but that lume is grody to the max.
     
  20. toddmp

    toddmp Mar 11, 2015

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    I sold a 1039 bracelet to a kid who had a speedy with what he claims was an original red hand on his.