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Walker & Hall ltd vintage watch (swiss made)

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Hi! Look what I have got in my drawer… A vintage 9 k gold Walker & Hall manual winding watch.
It works, don’t remember how long, but not much because the winding capacity is very short. I have cleaned it up a little bit and the watch is much nicer now.
My husband wore it once or two, can’t remember why he stopped using it, possibly because it doesn’t keep the time very well, or possibly because we were not "hooked" in vintages watches at the time…
All viruses are contagious, I think I’ve got it… and contaminated my husband as a result!
Any vaccine to prevent it???
The oddest thing is, being a lady, I do prefer men watches than women’s. Perhaps because the feminine side of women watches tend to achieve a kind of glamorous idea of women, making the quintessential of the watch disapearing, most of the time…?
Even though I do love diamonds and jewelry ( of course!), watches are something very special, captivating time-keeping machines, no need to embelish them with superfluous ornaments.
It's the reason why, although being a lady, I would prefer to collect men watches rather than woman's.... if I were going to collect watches....!
Who is gonna to be happy???
ps: any info on this watch would be welcome! thank you! ( and no, I m not going to open it ... for the moment, haha!)
breaking news : it works 4 hours... so far!
 
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... and I am afraid I din't post it at the right place... sorry...!
 
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I forgot to mention I found this:
https://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/294508/9ct-gold-1950-walker-hall-gents-wrist-watch/

The second post shows a similar appearing watch, and the mechanism is shown. The movement appears to be a bog stock A Schild calibre 984. A Schild being the maker, and the 984 specifying the model number of the movement. The stampings inside the case back would give a lot of information, but this is a very poor photo., so the only marks I can read are the case maker’s trade mark, and the karat stamp, which, blurry as it is, seems to indicate a case of .585 karat (14-karat). The engraving on the case back indicates 1950, so that might be close to the vintage of yours.

The 9-karat case on yours indicates made in Britain, or somewhere else in the British Commonwealth. Since Great Britain or the colonies were the only countries I know of who used 9 karat gold, it was made for domestic consumption. Walker & Hall appears to have been in business in Auckland, NZ. And I suppose maybe elsewhere.

Many women who appear on this MB like to wear men’s watches. So you are in good company.
 
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The second post shows a similar appearing watch, and the mechanism is shown. The movement appears to be a bog stock A Schild calibre 984. A Schild being the maker, and the 984 specifying the model number of the movement. The stampings inside the case back would give a lot of information, but this is a very poor photo., so the only marks I can read are the case maker’s trade mark, and the karat stamp, which, blurry as it is, seems to indicate a case of .585 karat (14-karat). The engraving on the case back indicates 1950, so that might be close to the vintage of yours.

The 9-karat case on yours indicates made in Britain, or somewhere else in the British Commonwealth. Since Great Britain or the colonies were the only countries I know of who used 9 karat gold, it was made for domestic consumption. Walker & Hall appears to have been in business in Auckland, NZ. And I suppose maybe elsewhere.

Many women who appear on this MB like to wear men’s watches. So you are in good company.

Thank for your interest ! This watch belonged to my grandfather and he presumably bought it in england. Actually I would have said it was rather from the 30s than the 50s... I have opened it some times ago but I would not like to do it again... Well I would like but I am always afraid to damage it! There is a very small "Swiss made" at the bottom of the dial, almost invisible. And a number at the back. I will post the picture tomorrow.
 
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Thank for your interest ! This watch belonged to my grandfather and he presumably bought it in england. Actually I would have said it was rather from the 30s than the 50s... I have opened it some times ago but I would not like to do it again... Well I would like but I am always afraid to damage it! There is a very small "Swiss made" at the bottom of the dial, almost invisible. And a number at the back. I will post the picture tomorrow.

Walker and Hall was founded just before the turn of the 20th century. It seems they were founded in Auckland, N Z, but they may have opened branches elsewhere in the Commonwealth. A better (much clearer) picture of the markings in the case back would answer many questions.
 
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Swiss made... When seen with bare eyes, the watch looks quite fine!

Walker & Hall swiss made 1 @aggie.png Walker & Hall swiss made 2 @ aggie.png
 
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You want more information about your 9-karat watch. In Oder to give you more information, we need to see good, clear, well lit photos of the inside of the case back of your 9-karat watch. And while the back is off, a picture of the mechanism.
 
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You want more information about your 9-karat watch. In Oder to give you more information, we need to see good, clear, well lit photos of the inside of the case back of your 9-karat watch. And while the back is off, a picture of the mechanism.

Yes, I know....I have to find a proper tool... What do you suggest ? Some kind of knife would probably do the job...if I use it cautiously...
 
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Not a knife! No! Have a watchmaker do it for you!
 
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Not a knife! No! Have a watchmaker do it for you!
Haha! Don't worry, I won't do anything stupid!
 
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Hi ! Finally the watch is in the hands of the watchmaker. I hope it won't be too long to get it back, fully serviced... I am going to ask him pictures of the inside.... What matters the most to me is to have it working properly, but I am definitely curious of the informations the inside could provide! Have a nice Sunday !
 
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Walker and Hall were retail jewellers in Newcastle as I recall it absorbed into goldsmiths. They were also actual goldsmiths in Sheffield which hopefully the assay marks will confirm. I think all English gold assay was Birmingham or London However.
 
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Walker and Hall were retail jewellers in Newcastle as I recall it absorbed into goldsmiths. They were also actual goldsmiths in Sheffield which hopefully the assay marks will confirm. I think all English gold assay was Birmingham or London However.
Thank you! Probably coming from Sheffield.
 
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Hi! Here is an update: a picture of the caliber the watchmaker sent to me. After he had serviced it, of course, because now it sounds brand new! I would be very happy if you had any information to share about it! Thank you!!!
 
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Hi! Here is an update: a picture of the caliber the watchmaker sent to me. After he had serviced it, of course, because now it looks brand new! I would be very happy if you had any information to share about it! Thank you!!!
walker and hall movement - copie.png
 
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