Vintage Watches: I Don't Get It

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First of all I'm not hating on anybody that's into vintage watches. There sure seem to be a lot of you. They just don't hold any appeal for me and I'm barely interested in them. Obviously they're all over the forums and occasionally one will pique my interest a bit but never enough to seriously consider buying one.

I guess defining what constitutes vintage is part of the discussion. IMO unless it's more than about 30-40 years old it's not vintage and I don't look at older modern watches as being vintage. For example, I don't consider a 80's or 90's era watch as vintage. They're just older modern watches. I have what I consider to be a decent watch collection but nothing is over 20 years old.

So am I the outcast here? Anybody else not really interested in vintage watches beyond just a casual awareness? Can one be a legitimate watch enthusiast absent a vintage watch or two?
 
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Yes you can be a watch enthusiast without interest in vintage watches, you will only be a less informed one about the watch history.

Modern vintage is probably the area you have an issue with, many of my favourite watches are from about 1990 to 2010. Are watches from the fifties through the seventies vintage? In the view of many enthusiasts, yes.

In the area of classic car enthusiasts, up until about 1980 a car was not considered vintage unless it was made before 1919. These terms change over the years. I do have problems with a car from the eighties being called vintage though.

My oldest watch is a 250 year old Wm Upjohn, Exeter, Verge fusee. I have a lot of pocketwatches made between 1870 all the way up to after WW2. All vintage.

Yes I like modern watches and enjoy wearing them, as you do. Just enjoy what you like and don’t overthink what you are supposed to like.
 
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So this is about what you dont like ?

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In a lot of ways I envy you. To have a focus in life. Where everything is new and untainted. The whole world before you.
 
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I like new...phones, tv's, yard tools and the occasional watch. Everything else is vintage: sunglasses, pens, watches, cars, golf clubs, luggage. Touching history means something.
 
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I tend to view anything from the 70s and earlier as vintage, bit now starting to accept 80s as vintage also, especially early 80s.

I guess it's all taste related. I've always had a thing for the bold out there funky designs of fhe 70s, my favourite decade by far in terms of watch design(although very late 60s is responsible for a lot that I love to be fair), especially Omega who for me were at the top of their game during that period.

I've owned tons of 70s Omega over the years, still have a couple, but when I had the most were when nobody wanted them until a few years ago so they were so cheap, great times.

70s Omega still account for most of my favourite watches.
 
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I could consider myself the outcast here because I am "all vintage, all the time." I use very few watches that are less than 40 years old. The Speedmaster here is 41 years old and is near the newest watch on hand.

Serviced and maintained properly my 50 to 130 year old watches all tick merrily, are trouble free, capable of adequate accuracy for my purposes, and provide for joy and gratification in my wearing rotation.

I enjoy keeping up with current events in the watch market as presented here in OmegaForums-World, but don't imagine myself wearing many of the watches currently catalogued and marketed. I guess you could say I " have a casual awareness" of new watches.

While I could afford them, the price of new watches have become bloated for my sensibilities. If I am to spend so much then those same makers once provided some beautiful and iconic models that appeal to me more. For instance, I would rather collect 1950s Omega Constellations than acquire new Omega watches.

Watch styling has changed from the olden days. Styling tastes are very subjective and I have my own tastes like everybody else does.

Size matters. Apparently, large watches aren't going anywhere soon and that is fine if it appeals to most current buyers. A watch can be large enough to "wear its owner" rather than the other way around. I have a few inexpensive late model watches: Seiko Turtle, Seiko field model, and an Orient diver that could do service as a wheel on a city bus. For me vintage provides balance as an accessory.


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I have some nice modern watches and love them of course. Have recently been more focused on vintage. Some of the advantages/attractions for me: classic look and feel (60’s era is my favorite), often (not always) more affordable for some high quality watches (such that I may be willing/able to learn to service them without as much fear of breaking something), some beautiful movements that seem more unique and interesting than similarly priced modern watches, being a piece of history etc. The issue for me is not the appeal of them (they are awesome and obsession provoking) - but the work and effort to find something in good shape, original, running well or at least serviceable. Much more effort than buying a nice modern piece.
 
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I could consider myself the outcast here because I am "all vintage, all the time." I use very few watches that are less than 40 years old. The Speedmaster here is 41 years old and is near the newest watch on hand.

Serviced and maintained properly my 50 to 130 year old watches all tick merrily, are trouble free, capable of adequate accuracy for my purposes, and provide for joy and gratification in my wearing rotation.

I enjoy keeping up with current events in the watch market as presented here in OmegaForums-World, but don't imagine myself wearing many of the watches currently catalogued and marketed. I ghess you coyld say I " have a casual awareness" of new watches.

While I could afford them, the price of new watches have become bloated for my sensibilities. If I am to spend so much then those same makers once provided some beautiful and iconic models that appeal to me more. For instance, I would rather collect 1950s Omega Constellations than acquire new Omega watches.

Watch styling has changed from the olden days. Styling tastes are very subjective and I have my own tastes like everybody else does.

Size matters. Apparently, large watches aren't going anywhere soon and that is fine if it appeals to most current buyers. A watch can be large enough to "wear its owner" rather than the other way around. I have a few inexpensive late model watches: Seiko Turtle, Seiko field model, and an Orient diver that could do service as a wheel on a city bus. For me vintage provides balance as an accessory.


I completely forget to mention sizing in my response, but that is a big one. Wonderful to have some fabulous options in smaller diameters. And yeah, it never ceases to amaze to pick up one of these 60-70 year old watches and have it still performing its function beautifully.
 
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I think responding to this thread is more than it deserves. I'm trying to imagine myself starting a thread with "I don't really like modern watches. Am I the only one? They are so modern and don't appeal to me. I mean, what IS modern, anyway? They just don't interest me enough to buy one. Anyone else agree with my unsolicited negative opinion about new watches? Is it weird that I chose to type this in a forum that I know is filled with vintage nerds? I also hate rock and roll music. Am I the only one?"

"We don't sell no GODAMN TROUT."
 
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I could consider myself the outcast here because I am "all vintage, all the time." I use very few watches that are less than 40 years old. The Speedmaster here is 41 years old and is near the newest watch on hand.

Serviced and maintained properly my 50 to 130 year old watches all tick merrily, are trouble free, capable of adequate accuracy for my purposes, and provide for joy and gratification in my wearing rotation.

I enjoy keeping up with current events in the watch market as presented here in OmegaForums-World, but don't imagine myself wearing many of the watches currently catalogued and marketed. I guess you could say I " have a casual awareness" of new watches.

While I could afford them, the price of new watches have become bloated for my sensibilities. If I am to spend so much then those same makers once provided some beautiful and iconic models that appeal to me more. For instance, I would rather collect 1950s Omega Constellations than acquire new Omega watches.

Watch styling has changed from the olden days. Styling tastes are very subjective and I have my own tastes like everybody else does.

Size matters. Apparently, large watches aren't going anywhere soon and that is fine if it appeals to most current buyers. A watch can be large enough to "wear its owner" rather than the other way around. I have a few inexpensive late model watches: Seiko Turtle, Seiko field model, and an Orient diver that could do service as a wheel on a city bus. For me vintage provides balance as an accessory.


OUTcast? Hell, I'd eat VINTAGE food if it wouldn't kill me. In fact, has anyone seen the guy who opens ancient MREs and C rations live on camera? It's pretty cool, actually. He eats A LOT of scary looking stuff.
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some people refuse to buy a Rolex based on their marketing practices and how they treat their customers. I get it though. Why spend money on something outdated and built with less tolerances and precision when it’s modern counterpart is available?

Vintage watches are special. Everyone can’t have one because they aren’t made anymore.

They also have meaning. My most prized watch is my birth year watch for example.

Lastly they don’t make them like they used to. The SpeedyMoon, Speedy Holy Grail for example have small details not found in their modern counterparts. I love vintage watches but if Omega made a reissue of either of those models and modernized them (thinner, silicone balance springs) I’d be all over them. Some vintage watches are special because they will never be made again.
 
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I've given considerable thought to "everyone is entitled to their own opinion," and I've decided it's simply not true. Much the way many Americans have forfeited their rights to opinions regarding certain presidents. Many people have done nothing to earn an opinion. It's like when the teacher used to say, "There are no dumb questions." (or dumb observations). Hell yes there are. That's my opinion.
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I've given considerable thought to "everyone is entitled to their own opinion," and I've decided it's simply not true. Much the way many Americans have forfeited their rights to opinions regarding certain presidents. Many people have done nothing to earn an opinion. It's like when the teacher used to say, "There are no dumb questions." Hell yes there are. That's my opinion.

Haha I guess I have to agree with that. It’s an overused phrase. What I meant to say is that there’s nothing wrong with not liking vintage watches. I just wanted to apply that phase to the specific situation in question. Kind of like how some people don’t like vintage cars. This hobby isn’t logical though. If it were we’d all be wearing Apple Watches.
 
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One thing I love about vintage watches is their history. To buy a watch from the 1940s, like I just did, is amazing to me. Someone bought that watch and wore it during the era of World War II. It was part of someone’s life more than 80 years ago, and somehow it survived all that time and ended up with me.


There’s a story behind that watch. I may never know what that story is or who originally owned it, but I know it’s there. And there’s also the rarity of it. Think about how many watches made in the 1940s have survived intact for more than eight decades. There are certainly some, but that number gets smaller with every passing year.


Anyone can walk into a store today and buy a brand-new Omega. It can be a beautiful watch, but at that moment it has no history. Its story is just beginning. Maybe it gets lost or destroyed someday, or maybe someone takes care of it, passes it down through generations, and 80 years from now someone else holds it and wonders about the person who first owned it.


That’s what makes vintage watches fascinating to me. You’re not just buying a watch; you’re becoming the temporary caretaker of something that has already lived a life before you and, hopefully, will continue long after you.


To me, that’s a big part of what watch collecting is about. It’s also what separates collecting from simply liking expensive watches or jewelry. The value isn’t only in what the watch is worth - it’s in what it represents, where it came from, and the fact that it survived long enough for you to become part of its story.
 
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Thank Heaven there are people like you! Competition for good stuff is tough enough, but it would be worse if everybody was after select items.
 
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I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for the selection of the next thing some guy prefers to some other thing.
 
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I just like old stuff. I try not to complicate it too much. My wife is the opposite, new is always better. We have quite the mix of furniture!
 
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OUTcast? Hell, I'd eat VINTAGE food if it wouldn't kill me. In fact, has anyone seen the guy who opens ancient MREs and C rations live on camera? It's pretty cool, actually. He eats A LOT of scary looking stuff.
I can’t help but admire vintage watches.

I am all about antique and vintage and am “plum ate up with it!” Stuff was just better in the “way back when.”

I love shooting sports and hunting, but stridently avoid using firearms’ designs that date to after about 1940. No black plastic pistols or AR 15s need apply. Oh, I have a single Glock, only acquiring it so I could learn to better detest the severely overrated design. A 1973 Colt SP-1 AR 15 is a place holder in a US military rifle collection. I have not shot it in years.

Am currently reading an 1885 edition of Dickens’ “Bleak House.” Have lots of antiquarian books on the library’s shelves with publication dates as far back as 1628 and all are read and loved.

Favorite razor for shaving my ol’ ugly mug is a 1934 Gillette Aristocrat safety razor. It’s out of a complete Gillette double-edged safety razor collection that spans their safety razor production from the first year, 1904 to the last year, 1988.

Love numismatics: American and British coinage mostly. I strive for a complete type set of both collecting endeavors which is unrealistic for US coinage and impossible for British coinage.

Am still wearing nice older Allen Edmonds, Alden, and a few British brands of shoes from near 30 years ago. Was part of the attire from the career. Even wear a dandy pair of Floursheim V-Cleat, 5-nail wingtips to church on occasion. They are probably 40 years old.

We both like antique and vintage house furnishings, Mrs. noelekal and I. We are the same way about films and television shows, classical and classic rock music. Vintage is distinctly better on these topics.

I would drive vintage vehicles except for the fact thst they are bottomless money pits. We did keep a rare Chrysler 300 convertible for 30 years. I still mourn it.

I “ain’t skeered” of old MREs either. While our youngest son was active duty Marine corps he procured sample MREs for us to try so we could experience what he was being served afield. They were dated 1988-1990 as I recall. This photo was taken Valentine’s Day, 2010 when we were setting it all out for a candle lit dinner.

All quite tasty, but salty enough to give one a stroke! The raspberry, macadamia nut, and white chocolate chip cookie was great!

 
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When I first started I really liked the old seamasters. 50’,60’s and 70’s. I acquired so many and it dawned on me that”damn these all look the same.” I sold them all locally and broke even with a little over. I was just glad I didn’t lose a bunch of money.

I started getting into neo vintage and new. One aspect being the damn humidity in New England. My watch maker is pretty good but I hate foggy dials.

I think the mechanisms and asthetics of vintage are amazing. Some brands like movado imo lost a let of soul over the years but it was their more modern Vizio that got me into watches.

I love having the option although I may lean modern their are plenty of vintage I love.

Off topic but I’m a big Seiko guy and the fakes and frankens that inflected my beloved vintage seikos is just a bummer at to me this is just a hobby I have limited time to devote to it.

Anyway it’s a good healthy distraction. I haven’t bought any watches recently as I’m guitar hunting but damn it’s hard to stick to a “I’m not buying a watch for a spell” pledge.