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Vintage Vacheron Constantin

  1. dra43b Aug 10, 2022

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  2. Dan S Aug 10, 2022

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    This is out of my wheelhouse TBH, but in your place I would look for photos of other examples, focusing on whether the hands match the dial. To my eye, those delicate pointer hands are poorly matched to the awesome triangular markers. On the other hand, they are the correct length, so maybe it's just an odd design choice.
     
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  3. Geezer Aug 10, 2022

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    This is a redial.
     
  4. dra43b Aug 11, 2022

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    Yes, that's my problem. Cannot find the very same model online
     
  5. dra43b Aug 11, 2022

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    Is it really? They did an amazing job because it had me believing it is untouched. But is theo and harris willing to sell redials? I think they have reputation already
     
  6. Geezer Aug 11, 2022

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    Several things. Look at the alignment of the applied hour markers to the printed markers. Then there is the quality of the print itself. The little rectangles are very irregular.

    You can blow up the pictures seen below that make my point more clearly.

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  7. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Aug 11, 2022

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    Don't confuse a "[​IMG] CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY" with originality. Having taken a quick look at their site, I see a LIP with an obvious replacement crown, yet they characterize it positively and make no mention of the lack of originality.

    Furthermore, they make no mention of originality on dial that are obviously original, which is a way of giving themselves cover when failing to identify those which may not be original.

    I also agree with Dan that the hands are dissonant with the indices, though he may be correct about them being an original, and an odd design choice.

    Finally, though this dealer is hardly alone in such transgressions, I find it to be ludicrous that (especially) with an expensive watch, there are neither photos, nor any relevant details (e.g. caliber, condition) of the movement provided (it's almost certainly a cal. 1002).
     
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  8. Geezer Aug 11, 2022

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    By the way, this appears to be VC ref. 4986 in case you want to see other examples.
     
  9. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Aug 11, 2022

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  10. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Aug 11, 2022

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  11. Geezer Aug 11, 2022

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    Fully agree, be very careful and always insist on
    seeing movement pictures before pulling the trigger.

    As a sidenote, I was browsing this Theo and Harris website and they are offering a gold plated Felca for only $1395. ::facepalm1::

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  12. Dan S Aug 11, 2022

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    That dealer is definitely not the best, IMO. Now and then they will have something decent, but they sell a lot of crap. Certainly, they are not the type of seller where you can just take things for granted.
     
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  13. osterman Jul 18, 2023

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    100% a reprint.
    Index marks at 3, 4 and 5 are not in line with the dots, for instance.
     
  14. Doc Savage Jul 19, 2023

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    Can't say for sure, but it's nice looker.