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  1. GGG964 Sep 21, 2017

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    Hi guys,

    I am having a very difficult time identifying this watch. I cannot seem to find another like it for sale now or in the past. Perhaps I am missing something, but It appears the back of this watch does not come off and there are no markings on it except for 18K gold and what appears to be a serial number of 63498. Any help is appreciated!

    This watch was a family heirloom so I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is! Thanks again

    -Garrett
     
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  2. jumpingsecond Sep 21, 2017

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    never seen anything like it. very existential. maybe that is the point??
     
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  3. GGG964 Sep 21, 2017

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    Neither have I. It's a very plain but good looking piece. I know that this was given to my grandfather by a company he worked for in the 1960's and that is it. I have tried ebay/google image searches etc. The only one that comes close is in the link below, but it's slightly off

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Uni...038224&hash=item41962e5d65:g:rbMAAOSw3xJVVQEPPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
     
  4. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 21, 2017

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    Looks like UGs take on the original Movado Museum watch.

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  5. GGG964 Sep 21, 2017

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    That's pretty interesting. They look almost identical. Thanks for the input!
     
  6. 10H10 Sep 21, 2017

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    That's a piece of s**t
     
  7. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Sep 21, 2017

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    Honestly this is a horrible fake dial. +1 POS
     
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  8. GGG964 Sep 21, 2017

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    Interesting. Thanks for the candid insight. Was looking for a little more detailed information, but i suppose that will do haha.

    At the same time, how is it even possible that this is a fake dial? This watch was given to him for years served at Westinghouse. He threw it in a drawer. If you look at the one on eBay, it has a similarly questionable dial.
     
  9. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Sep 21, 2017

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    The quality is just poor. Even in their decline UG was never this bad.
     
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  10. GuiltyBoomerang Sep 21, 2017

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    I'm just curious as to who would go to such lengths to make a fake UG like this.

    Perhaps opening the watch to see the movement will answer many of the questions you seek OP and to us here.
     
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  11. jumpingsecond Sep 21, 2017

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    I agree OP should get it opened and photograph the movement/ caseback etc. It looks like it could be right out of a page from one of Genta's notebooks of discarded ideas!
     
  12. GGG964 Sep 21, 2017

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    I think i'm going to have to take it to a professional to get to the movement. I tried to pop the back off and ended up popping the lens off. I've never seen anything like this before. I think the only way to get to the movement is to take the dial off, which I am not equipped to do.
     
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  13. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 21, 2017

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    The original "museum" watch was actually designed by Nathan George Horwitt for LeCoultre, not Movado.

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    https://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/objects/112913

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_George_Horwitt#The_Museum_Watch

    Several manufacturers made similar watches (including Omega) until Zenith/Movado "acquired" the rights to it in the 1970's.

    http://mid2mod.blogspot.com/2014/02/nathan-george-horwitt.html

    It is possible that UG tried their hand at a similar design prior to the 1970's.
    gatorcpa
     
  14. GGG964 Sep 21, 2017

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    Thanks for the information! I appreciate it.
     
  15. m84 Sep 22, 2017

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    This looks so weird! Now I'm super interested in finding out more about this piece!
     
  16. ConElPueblo Sep 22, 2017

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    I am nearly 100% certain that this is way it was meant to be - however, you would have to remove the crown first and then remove the entire movement from the front.
     
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  17. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 22, 2017

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    Movement comes out from the front. Lift gently upward on the crown, whole movement/dial should come straight out. Note the notch in the case adjacent to the crown.

    This is similar to OPs watch

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  18. GGG964 Sep 22, 2017

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    Thank you! I will do that and post some pictures. Seriously thanks for the help gentleman.
     
  19. GGG964 Sep 22, 2017

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    That did the trick. Thanks X350!

    All I could make out are the numbers 1-42 on the movement itself. And on the casing, 06547
     
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  20. GuiltyBoomerang Sep 22, 2017

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    I think @Larry S is going to have to eat his words now :p

    @GGG964 well done! Looks the part now :) From the Ranfft site the movement in your watch was manufactured in the mid to late 70s, which coincides with the logo style of the time.
     
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