Vintage Speedmaster but not sure it is all genuine

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I got it for 5.1k usd, 6 months ago. Not sure if this is considered cheap. At that time, I was less carefull. The seller didn't mention anything so I assumed it was all original. Plus, it was during an auction where it was not possible to chat with the seller before the bid.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback.
I don't know the current market, but that seems fairly reasonable. I was worried maybe you paid $10K or something like that. If you like it as a daily, just enjoy it. If you prefer to get something more original, flip it and put the money towards something vintage. Win win either way.
 
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Thinking about it, a brand new 321 from Omega right now sells for 16k usd. So I got something like new for much less then...
I might as well replace the case back with a open one 馃檮
Naw, I'd say keep it as is - It may be completely rebuilt but its soul is still from ~1968 unlike the contemporary ones 馃榾
All the service parts are pretty true to the original design.
 
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I do not think the serial number is ground off.. likely just blurred out the number for the photograph.
it is certainly a watch to be worn like one would have in 1968 馃榾
Hard to tell for sure from photos, but to me it looks like the escape wheel bridge has been shaved down. It appears shorter that the main bridge beside it, and the graining that would normally be on it is not there. So I do actually think the serial number has been removed...
 
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Hard to tell for sure from photos, but to me it looks like the escape wheel bridge has been shaved down. It appears shorter that the main bridge beside it, and the graining that would normally be on it is not there. So I do actually think the serial number has been removed...
If that is the case, that is concerning.
 
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Yes, expensive for a vintage speedmaster with very little vintage left in it - but a lot less than a modern 321. Go give it a lifetime of use.
if you ever buy anything speedmaster related again, you can always post pictures here as you did and get opinions prior to bidding, or even better would be get educated with this fantastic resource: www.speedmaster101.com
Thanks for the advice. When I bought it, I barely had started with vintage. Since then, I used this forum several times, especially for Seamaster 300 (and so far, I didn't buy any of the SM300 vintage, it seems most models out there are fake or not genuine).
 
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Naw, I'd say keep it as is - It may be completely rebuilt but its soul is still from ~1968 unlike the contemporary ones 馃榾
All the service parts are pretty true to the original design.
True, makes sense.
 
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If that is the case, that is concerning.
I don't have the watch with me right now (back home and I am overseas) but I'll post a fresher and clearer picture of the movement once I open it.
 
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intrigue!
I figured you had removed the serial for the photo - but if you didn't digitally blur the serial on that photo, it looks like it could very likely be physically altered. We can clearly see the definition of the "321" and inscription on the chronograph bridge... That certainly makes things interesting. Looking forward to the follow up with some better photography.
 
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Just wanted to add to other comments that I wouldn鈥檛 be upset for the price paid - yes, it鈥檚 a lot of service parts, but I would say the price you paid was reasonable for that. Others who want all originality may disagree, but I doubt anyone can find a nice-looking Speedmaster with a 321 movement anymore for $5k.
 
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It's a good watch for the price paid, I wouldn't beat myself up over it. If the SN is shaved off you'll never know why it was done. I remember years ago when I was interested in 35mm cameras but had no money there was a way to buy new Nikon cameras from Hong Kong at a deep discount relative to US prices. The kicker was the SN and the Nikon name on the camera was shaved off to skirt US customs, so it was a severe price to pay to get a Nikon camera. Never did it. Lots of crazy stuff happens in the world, and in the past it was often done for customs avoidance purposes.
 
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$5k doesn't seem ridiculous at all, and I think yiou could easily sell that watch if you decide you want something different. As a point of comparison, last year I paid about $5k for this OK-but-not-pristine 145.012-67, head only, and dropped another $1k into service. Figure I'd spend at least $500 for a service bracelet like you have, and your watch is $1,500 or more under the cost of mine. And I was pretty happy to get my watch -- from an auction at a small auction house -- for $5k.



FWIW, though, it looked to me like you got your watch through Catawiki, which might be the last place I would look. As another poster recommended, the Speedmaster101.com pages, published by a member here (@Spacefruit) are an invaluable resource, especially the assessment and price guides. To the extent that I haven't been bamboozled in the vintage Speedmaster market, I owe it to a lot of time reading Speedmaster101 and the Moonwatch Only book.
 
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$5k doesn't seem ridiculous at all, and I think yiou could easily sell that watch if you decide you want something different. As a point of comparison, last year I paid about $5k for this OK-but-not-pristine 145.012-67, head only, and dropped another $1k into service. Figure I'd spend at least $500 for a service bracelet like you have, and your watch is $1,500 or more under the cost of mine. And I was pretty happy to get my watch -- from an auction at a small auction house -- for $5k.



FWIW, though, it looked to me like you got your watch through Catawiki, which might be the last place I would look. As another poster recommended, the Speedmaster101.com pages, published by a member here (@Spacefruit) are an invaluable resource, especially the assessment and price guides. To the extent that I haven't been bamboozled in the vintage Speedmaster market, I owe it to a lot of time reading Speedmaster101 and the Moonwatch Only book.

Apples and oranges. Yours has an original dial, bezel and hand set, plus a recent service.
The OP watch could have been serviced 15 years ago so the movement may well be due another.
 
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Apples and oranges. Yours has an original dial, bezel and hand set, plus a recent service.
The OP watch could have been serviced 15 years ago so the movement may well be due another.
All true. I guess my point is that my even-halfway-decent 145.012-67 - which I think I bought fairly well - was far more than a $5k proposition.
 
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the watch is worth maximum the sum of the parts - so what is with the movement/movement number?!

selling the watch will not reach that maximum or only if someone buying the watch, who has no expertise

the info /better picture from the movement will bring the solution regarding the value
 
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$5k doesn't seem ridiculous at all, and I think yiou could easily sell that watch if you decide you want something different. As a point of comparison, last year I paid about $5k for this OK-but-not-pristine 145.012-67, head only, and dropped another $1k into service. Figure I'd spend at least $500 for a service bracelet like you have, and your watch is $1,500 or more under the cost of mine. And I was pretty happy to get my watch -- from an auction at a small auction house -- for $5k.



FWIW, though, it looked to me like you got your watch through Catawiki, which might be the last place I would look. As another poster recommended, the Speedmaster101.com pages, published by a member here (@Spacefruit) are an invaluable resource, especially the assessment and price guides. To the extent that I haven't been bamboozled in the vintage Speedmaster market, I owe it to a lot of time reading Speedmaster101 and the Moonwatch Only book.
Correct, I got it from Catawiki. In any case, I bought it at a time I was less careful and less knowledgeable. The fact is that when I rechecked the watch pictures a week ago (while the watch is not with me right now), I realized I might not have a full original, which means I am better now at spotting problems 馃榿
Anyway, like others said, it remains a nice watch.

Thanks everyone for the valuable feedback, really appreciate it. 馃檹