Vintage Rolex Vs Vintage Omega

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bubu16

·Sep 12, 2019

Vintage Rolex as an example a 5513. Serial Numbers are stamped on the case not on the movement. So if the movement is totally wasted -say a 1520 movement as an example- and you find a new one or a good used one- and install/replace the wasted one using the same case, no issues since no SN on the movement. It is a totally legit 5513- no need for an extract, no need to know how this 5513 really was sold as a 5513. And yet some Rolex timepieces use the same movement. Not true with Omega SM 300 with caliber 562 or 565 correct? Different Omega models use same movements hence the need for an extract using the movement's SN to prove authenticity as to whether it is a legit SM 300 or just a right movement in a wrong case.
If I am correct, which one is better?
Thanks.

 

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wwhntr

·Sep 12, 2019

Rolex movements have a caliber number, top picture, as well as a serial number, bottom picture. This is from a ‘61 GMT I owned. Rolex does not make archives information available😡

 

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watchyouwant

·Sep 12, 2019

???? That is the old Apple versus Oranges thing.....Better? They are different and stand alone watches in their own right. There are a lot more fake Rolex cases from Vietnam on the market , than changed Omega Movements. And these fake Rolex cases are very good now ! So, what was your question again ? Kind regards. Achim

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watchyouwant

·Sep 12, 2019

wwhntr

Rolex movements have a caliber number, top picture, as well as a serial number, bottom picture. This is from a ‘61 GMT I owned. Rolex does not make archives information available😡

Not every Rolex Movement has a serial number.....

 

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bubu16

·Sep 13, 2019

watchyouwant

???? That is the old Apple versus Oranges thing.....Better? They are different and stand alone watches in their own right. There are a lot more fake Rolex cases from Vietnam on the market , than changed Omega Movements. And these fake Rolex cases are very good now ! So, what was your question again ? Kind regards. Achim

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. Obviously I am not as knowledgable as you are Achim. That is why I added "If I am right" in my post. I know that there is caliber no on the movement but not an SN that can identify if the movement is for a Sub or say (again as an example ) a Precision that uses a cal 1520.

 

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jaguar11

·Sep 13, 2019

Imagine (however improbable) that one day Rolex offer archive extracts. What will it do to the value of some of the high price vintage pieces to find that the movement number does correspond to the one originally fitted. A bit of food for thought while I eat my lunch.

 

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Dan S

·Sep 13, 2019

bubu16

If I am correct, which one is better?

I don't understand what you are asking here. How could one of these be better? They are just different.

 

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bubu16

·Sep 13, 2019

Okay then. Thanks.

 

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bubu16

·Sep 13, 2019

jaguar11

Imagine (however improbable) that one day Rolex offer archive extracts. What will it do to the value of some of the high price vintage pieces to find that the movement number does correspond to the one originally fitted. A bit of food for thought while I eat my lunch.

My point exactly.

 

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Screwbacks

·Sep 13, 2019

what is this post all about? i have rolexes and omegas. i like them both regardless of whatever biases any one have.😗

 

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bubu16

·Sep 13, 2019

By the way, apple and orange are both fruits.

 

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bubu16

·Sep 13, 2019

Screwbacks

what is this post all about? i have rolexes and omegas. i like them both regardless of whatever biases any one have.😗

Love them both too-no bias. Thanks.

 

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Archer

·Sep 13, 2019·Omega Qualified Watchmaker

watchyouwant

Not every Rolex Movement has a serial number.....

Just as not every Omega movement has a serial number...

 

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bubu16

·Sep 13, 2019

My apology to all as I never intended to upset anyone. Sometimes we have to ask pointless question without intending to. My motive is to learn and to me Omega and Rolex timepieces are both great as well.

 

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M'Bob

·Sep 13, 2019

Actually, a very well-guarded secret is that they are in fact the same company, but shrewdly created an artificial opposition perception to cover all sides of the middle luxury watch market.

 

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Archer

·Sep 13, 2019·Omega Qualified Watchmaker

M'Bob

Actually, a very well-guarded secret is that they are in fact the same company, but shrewdly created an artificial opposition perception to cover all sides of the middle luxury watch market.

With how personnel in the industry move from one company y to another, there's some truth to this. If you look at the Cal. 8500 and a hire they made previous to the caliber, you would see the influence...

 

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WatchTimes

·Sep 13, 2019

Which one is best?
The one YOU like most!
There is no perfect brand or perfect watch for everyone!

 

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Screwbacks

·Sep 13, 2019

endless debate and pointless. let's just co-exist as vintage nuts.

 

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M'Bob

·Sep 13, 2019

Screwbacks

endless debate and pointless. let's just co-exist as vintage nuts.

 

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bubu16

·Sep 14, 2019

WatchTimes

Which one is best?
The one YOU like most!
There is no perfect brand or perfect watch for everyone!

Actually I wasn't talking about which one is the best/better. I was talking about their method/system about SN placements to help identify what movement came with model. Thanks.