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RevZMan123
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Honestly, you need to post pictures and not external links, this will get better traction as many won't click links.
 
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Absence of T's but lume on dial/hands + the n's in Constellation make me concerned. Also I don't think is a 1450 EUR watch.
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stormysky10 stormysky10
Absence of T's but lume on dial/hands + weird closing 'n' in Constellation make me concerned. Also I don't think is a 1450 EUR watch.
+ 1 - don t buy!
 
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Absence of T's but lume on dial/hands + the n's in Constellation make me concerned. Also I don't think is a 1450 EUR watch.
Thanks for your feedback. What does “absence of T’s” mean?
 
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It means: it should have this markings (Tritium) but does not. 2 x T means Tritium on hands & dial
omega 168 a.webp


btw: it s a nice model as dress-watch from that aera
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Fallout Boy Fallout Boy
It means: it should have this markings (Tritium) but does not. 2 x T means Tritium on hands & dial
omega 168 a.webp


btw: it s a nice model as dress-watch from that aera
Okay that’s good to know thankyou. And the “n” should be more curly on the ends like the picture you sent? Rather than straight?
 
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I agree that it is best to avoid this watch - it has potential issues and it's too expensive already - and if you are in the UK you will have to add ~25% import charges to the price and postage, thats ~£1600, and then service the watch (another £200-300)
These references are £1000 watches (and that is for a good SS watch not gold cap, which should be cheaper)

However, regarding the watch - although with a 31,1xxm serial its an end of decade / early 70s watch, I wonder if it is a later service dial ?
Mixed Ms do appear on some .018s but straight Ns don't seem to appear 'naturally' on any .018s but the font looks correct and we know Omega was messing around with straight Ns from just after the mid-sixties and they do appear on later C-cases.

The missing Ts on tritium dials began creeping in early 70s too.

Just a thought....
 
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Fallout Boy Fallout Boy
It means: it should have this markings (Tritium) but does not. 2 x T means Tritium on hands & dial
omega 168 a.webp


btw: it s a nice model as dress-watch from that aera

I think the idea of 2X T means tritium on hands and dial has been debunked as there are lots of genuine/original Constellation dials with lumed hands and dial that only have one T.
One theory that has been put forward is that one T means less tritium content but I don't think there is any written evidence to prove that either, so it could be just a dial manufacturer thing.
 
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I agree with @Dan S dial looks ok to me for 1970 date. I have a similar C case with same Constellation font it’s a known variant. Even if it’s service dial it’s in very good condition, case looks ok, case back medallion is good, movement is good. Also buckle is original (gold plate worth $150 or so).
If your husband is not a picky collector I think it’s a good choice, but price is high but negotiable. You might offer 1000 euro I think it’s worth that.
 
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I agree with @Dan S dial looks ok to me for 1970 date. I have a similar C case with same Constellation font it’s a known variant.
Although anything is possible, I think we would want to see more .018s with straight Ns before concluding that this is a contemporaneous 'missing link' crossover between C case dials and other references.
C cases are a law unto themselves, other references tend to be more predictable.
 
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I understand thanks. I’ll go with your theory of service dial as worst case and may still be good choice for OP for right price.
 
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Absence of T's but lume on dial/hands + the n's in Constellation make me concerned. Also I don't think is a 1450 EUR watch.

Wow, I didn’t spot the “n” until you pointed out. From what I know, which is still very little, if there is T, it must have lume. However, is there any model with lume but without T? Thank you
 
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Radio Yerevan says: in principle yes, but it s hidden in Cons t ellation.
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From what I know, which is still very little, if there is T, it must have lume. However, is there any model with lume but without T? Thank you
Post ~1963 all Omega watches with lume should have T or Ts on the dial.
However, as we slid into the 70s omega were a bit fast and loose with this rule and there are lumed dials without Ts.
Before that the dials should have a T or Ts - there is occasionally a 60s lumed dial, that looks correct, appears without Ts (like the OP's) and there is no obvious explanation for this and so those dials must leave some unanswered questions hanging over them.
 
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
Post ~1963 all Omega watches with lume should have T or Ts on the dial.
However, as we slid into the 70s omega were a bit fast and loose with this rule and there are lumed dials without Ts.
Before that the dials should have a T or Ts - there is occasionally a 60s lumed dial, that looks correct, appears without Ts (like the OP's) and there is no obvious explanation for this and so those dials must leave some unanswered questions hanging over them.
Noted. Thank you
 
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