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Vintage Omega Constellation Ref 2852 ID and Redial Check

2852 cal. 505s constellation omega vintage
soneson
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Please help me, after my speedmaster I want to buy my first vitage Omega so I'm afraid to make a mistake. Is there something you don't like about the watch from the pictures? looks like it has some replacement parts but i'm not sure. any help would mean a lot to me. Thank you.

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JimInOz
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It looks to me to be a bad redial in an over polished case, I wouldn't buy it.
 
Cartesian
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I also think it's a re-dial: the minute markers are of different sizes and thickness (look, for instance, at minutes 2, 3, and 4); and the font of 'Constellation' is off.

The movement (cal. 505) is at least correct for a 2852, though
 
chrisinohio
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On first glance, it strikes me as a redial.

Didn't these caliber 505s have the adjustment and jewel information printed on the rotor or was that only in some of them?
 
JimInOz
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chrisinohio chrisinohio
On first glance, it strikes me as a redial.

Didn't these caliber 505s have the adjustment and jewel information printed on the rotor or was that only in some of them?
The rotor has an "R" mark. I think this indicates a service replacement from memory.

Maybe @Archer can verify?
 
chrisinohio
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Ah. That would explain it.

JimInOz JimInOz
The rotor has an "R" mark. I think this indicates a service replacement from memory.

Maybe @Archer can verify?
 
Peemacgee
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Always be suspicious of a 2852 with chronometer spelling.
 
soneson
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Thank you for your help. I am fascinated with the group.
I saw in the pictures that the watch was not in original condition, but I wasn't sure if it was that bad.
I thought if it wasn't too bad I'd offer $1000.
Because I did not plan to keep the watch as a collector's item, but to wear it daily.
Now I don't know what to do.
 
Archer
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JimInOz JimInOz
The rotor has an "R" mark. I think this indicates a service replacement from memory.

Maybe @Archer can verify?
Not sure about what that means. On the 55X/56X series the replacements have an "O" on them, so maybe, but not something I can say for sure.
 
SOG53
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soneson soneson
I thought if it wasn't too bad I'd offer $1000
I don’t understand why you would spend 1000 on a poor example. Save your money toward a good one!
 
Peemacgee
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soneson soneson
Thank you for your help. I am fascinated with the group.
I saw in the pictures that the watch was not in original condition, but I wasn't sure if it was that bad.
I thought if it wasn't too bad I'd offer $1000.
Because I did not plan to keep the watch as a collector's item, but to wear it daily.
Now I don't know what to do.
Did you buy a redialled Speedmaster, or were you happier with a correct original version?
You obviously like watches - As @SOG53 says - why waste your money on a sub-par example when, if you increase your budget, you could buy a correct example to be proud of?
 
ErichKeane
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The one thing I've learned; Redials look WAAAY worse in person. Ive had a couple that looked not bad in photos that I used as projects that look way worse on the wrist. Unless it is a SUPER good one, I wouldn't wear a redial.
 
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