I doubt that the Omega archive does have any information what engraving the watches got from the MoD.

Have you ever seen an extract that states the MoD issue number? If Omega would had got a feedback from the MoD -or even made the engraving itself prior delivery what some people think- they should know the issue number, don't you think? But not a single extract from the archives exist with that information. As I said before in several other threads, it is more likely just an educated guess from Omega. ALL SM300 sold to the MoD in 1967 went to the Army, hence the engraving must be W10, and ALL SM300 sold to the MoD from 1968 to 1970 went to the Royal Navy, hence the engraving must be 0552. It is as simple as that. No rocket science for the museum staff.

 

Well you might be right, but it would seem unlikely that the museum staff would enter extra information into an ‘extract of the Omega archive’ based on an educated guess. It would no longer be an extract of the archive.

 

On the other hand, I did once buy a new old stock military 300 complete case that came from a Royal Navy clearance auction. It had fixed bars already but the case back was clear of the hippocampus, covered In blue wax, ready to be engraved. So that could well back up your story that they left the factory ‘sterile.’ Either way I am fairly sure they were modified for military issue (ie fixed bars etc..) at the factory.

 

I had thought that was what the remarks section was used for. Observations about the watch in the hand. That seems to be what it was in the past, and is again, for example dare I mention it, the vintage ultraman.

 

The ‘speculation’ section? I guess it’s possible.

 

Ha ha, Perfect. I think you should suggest it as a replacement or a new addition

 

Yep... some speculation like "the watch is equipped with a special orange hand" for the so called "Ultraman".
;-)

 

Having looked at the W10 watches in detail, it is reassuring to see the movement numbers are in quite a narrow range, and it does seem from Ash’s exprerience that Omega do have a record of delivery to the MoD and Royal Navy. Archives that are worth the paper they are printed on

 

The S/N ranges are well known for the 0552 too.
Omega provides only for those SM300 delivered directly to the MoD an information about the engraving in the extract. For those delivered via Goldsmith to the MoD the Extract states "delivered to the UK" only.

Again, that rather "vague" statement in the Extract is no proof at all that Omega has got any information or feedback from the MoD about the engraving itself.

 

All the extracts I have seen follow this format, With Delivered to the UK and only in the remarks it says delivered to MoD/ RN and a suggestion of the engraving W10 or 0552. Is there another style?

 

Yes, as I said... "delivered to the UK" only without any info under remarks

 

Here it is folks.. Serial in the 25million range, crown is screw down type, plain back has only “165024” stamped on inside..
What are your thoughts?

 

what brings u to the conclusion of being military ?

the condition is soso and it's tbh not a attractive one ... also the missing engravings a a huge minus ....

is it yours or do you want to buy it ?

 

The current owner (not me) is researching it’s history prior to selling it.. It has fixed bars and he is waiting for Extract for it - The Omega archive people have asked him for photos of his watch.. Not normal procedures for them..?

 

I have never been asked for a photo, I must have ordered 20+ extracts including for issued watches.

 

yea wait for the result of archive

pictures in special cases are normally... so nothing to be concerned

 

@ vintagewatchzilla:
I've never heard of a picture request for an extract before (except for a potential "Ultraman" maybe). Could you define "special cases"? Let's assume the movement was delivered to the MoD. What else has to be checked by the archive staff? The engraving? The fixed bars? I don't think so.

@ Tri-national-man:
Could be a "demilitarized" MoD watch. It's not uncommon that soldiers who "lost" their watch prior retiring, removed any proof of military provenance. However, the S/N range does not fit into the known range.
So it is rather a civil watch where a watchmaker welded some fixed bars on.

 

No military markings on the face or the caseback, but the watch sure looks like it has been in the wars

 

@ Tri-national-man:
Could be a "demilitarized" MoD watch. It's not uncommon that soldiers who "lost" their watch prior retiring, removed any proof of military provenance. However, the S/N range does not fit into the known range.
So it is rather a civil watch where a watchmaker welded some fixed bars on.[/QUOTE]
A 25million range puts it in 1967, a known range for military,no?

 

No