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Vintage Bumper 2494
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DaveK
·Welcome to OF!
I don’t know bumpers, and I am definitely not the most experienced here, but I believe that the dial feet should be brass, and not silver in colour. This assumes that what I think are the dial feet are the dial feet 👎
If it is a redial, then it is well done IMO. Do you want to share a photo of the inside of the case back so a fuller assessment can be done?
I don’t know bumpers, and I am definitely not the most experienced here, but I believe that the dial feet should be brass, and not silver in colour. This assumes that what I think are the dial feet are the dial feet 👎
If it is a redial, then it is well done IMO. Do you want to share a photo of the inside of the case back so a fuller assessment can be done?
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorI’m not sure about this one.
The dial looms to be an original Omega dial. If it’s a redial, it’s an amazing job.
The movement looks to be in nice condition as well.
However, I’m not sure if the two were together at the beginning. The OVD shows that Ref. 2657 (the sub-seconds version) should have the earlier cal. 342, without the swan-neck regulator.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-ck-2657
Could be all good, could be a frankenwatch. Still an attractive piece. I just wouldn’t overpay for it.
gatorcpa
The dial looms to be an original Omega dial. If it’s a redial, it’s an amazing job.
The movement looks to be in nice condition as well.
However, I’m not sure if the two were together at the beginning. The OVD shows that Ref. 2657 (the sub-seconds version) should have the earlier cal. 342, without the swan-neck regulator.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-ck-2657
Could be all good, could be a frankenwatch. Still an attractive piece. I just wouldn’t overpay for it.
gatorcpa
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Gershwin
·I’m not sure about this one.
The dial looms to be an original Omega dial. If it’s a redial, it’s an amazing job.
The movement looks to be in nice condition as well.
However, I’m not sure if the two were together at the beginning. The OVD shows that Ref. 2657 (the sub-seconds version) should have the earlier cal. 342, without the swan-neck regulator.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-ck-2657
Could be all good, could be a frankenwatch. Still an attractive piece. I just wouldn’t overpay for it.
gatorcpa
Thank you, I didn't investigate about the caliber.
Seller request was 1800€ (eBay)
We closed the deal this morning for 1150... Hope it will be a good purchase
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KingCrouchy
·Thank you, I didn't investigate about the caliber.
Seller request was 1800€ (eBay)
We closed the deal this morning for 1150... Hope it will be a good purchase
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apsm100
··Noob taxpayerMy gut tells me this is a frankenstein/nice redial as well. I’ve never seen thick lugs with that style of Omega logo (the whole dial looks like its from the early 40’s).
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorI have a watch from 1950 with a similar style dial and handset. Per the Omega Database, that's not far off from the time the Ref. was introduced into the catalog (1949). What troubles me more is that the movement would date to around 1953 or so.
While I have found that you can never say never with vintage Omega, that large of a time gap between catalog date and movement date makes me uncomfortable. However, it is possible that this case reference was produced for several years and the OVD is only the date of introduction.
I really, truly don't know, and I don't know if Omega would know either.
gatorcpa
While I have found that you can never say never with vintage Omega, that large of a time gap between catalog date and movement date makes me uncomfortable. However, it is possible that this case reference was produced for several years and the OVD is only the date of introduction.
I really, truly don't know, and I don't know if Omega would know either.
gatorcpa
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoThe dial looks a bit off to me - the omega symbol and writing at the top looks a bit low to me and not sure if the dial itself is a shade too small for the case. If a redial though as gator said it's well done.
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VetPsychWars
·My theory is that the dial and movement belong together and the dial is too good not to be original, and the hands match the appliques on the dial... and since it doesn't match the reference number well enough... the dial, movement, etc was recased.
But it's nice how it is, too.
Tom
But it's nice how it is, too.
Tom
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UncleBuck
·Mine with a similar dial...an old one of yours, Mike and as Gator mentioned, also from the late 40's.
I fully agree that they are different, gut says redial, brain tells me that I don't know sh.. from shinola and shut up.
Here's my photo and I also have a better one from @MSNWatch but I won't post without permission.
The dial looks a bit off to me - the omega symbol and writing at the top looks a bit low to me
Here's my photo and I also have a better one from @MSNWatch but I won't post without permission.
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Gershwin
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JwRosenthal
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorThe dial reminds me of the Ref. 2500 Centenary:
Just without the applied logo and "Swiss Made". Not gold, of course.
gatorcpa
Just without the applied logo and "Swiss Made". Not gold, of course.
gatorcpa
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Jerseyhammer
·My theory is that the dial and movement belong together and the dial is too good not to be original, and the hands match the appliques on the dial... and since it doesn't match the reference number well enough... the dial, movement, etc was recased.
But it's nice how it is, too.
Tom
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Gershwin
·Agreed a recast but still nice looking
Probably I've overpaid this piece... What would be a fair price in your opinion?
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Jerseyhammer
·Around the £5-600 mark . IMO
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TNTwatch
·Late ref 2657 would often have calibre 344 with the swan neck regulator, so no doubt it's not a recase.
The anomaly is on the printed logo and no Swiss Made, both of which are the norm of 1950 and before, but the script of Automatic it's of later type though.
The whole watch seems to be legit with an original but outlier dial.
The anomaly is on the printed logo and no Swiss Made, both of which are the norm of 1950 and before, but the script of Automatic it's of later type though.
The whole watch seems to be legit with an original but outlier dial.
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TNTwatch
·Probably I've overpaid this piece... What would be a fair price in your opinion?
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Fritz
·Nice!
It would be real easy to be happy with that watch. Enjoy it!
It would be real easy to be happy with that watch. Enjoy it!
