Video: 1974 Rolex Daytona - complete overhaul

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Dinner is nearly on the table so do I favour Nick, or SWMBO?

The latter I think, and the vid goes on my "Watch Later" list.
 
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In watching your videos I don't see that you ever replace any parts, other than rubies. Is that just not shown? I would think that in order for the overhaul to be done correctly that every part needs to be examined to be sure that it's not too worn? Some places like Omega, when you send in your vintage watches for service, it seems like they replace almost every part just to simplify and speed up this process?

Great videos btw and thanks for posting them.
 
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Thank you for your comment. There is a substantial difference between modern watch movements (made in 1980s- to around 2010) and quality, vintage mechanisms which are built to last. When serviced on regular basis, vintage watches can last for 50-100 years. On the other hand, modern watches routinely need replacement of main spring, barrel, rotor ball bearing, autoreverse wheels - once every 10 years. This is why watchmakers adore (and respect) pocket watches and calibres developed between WW2. They work.

No jewels were replaced, just cleaned and oiled.
 
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Wonderful restoration and nicely edited / shot video. I liked it. If I may suggest considering adding small anotations to certain phases of your videos or to clarify what is being done.

For example the brushing of the hour / minute hand was very intriguing . Were they just washed or just drybrushed?
 
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Thank you mate, yes, anotations would be helpful but we simply have no manpower to do it. The entire video was shot and edited over 4 working days (my young apprentice and myself) - while working on at lest dozen other watches. We've accidentally deleted an entire folder containing reassembly of under the dial section, forgot to include water pressure testing, and out of 100+ photos only handful were included. Big youtubers do 1 video per months, we've been doing one per week... And there is that pile of great 'restoration' candidates, some of them would be just fantastic - for example there is a lovely quarter repeater pocket watch with chrono issue, but it is not a brand name and no one would watch it. I really want to do Zenith el primero next, but Zenith is not popular YT search. Maybe 1950s Breitling vith Venus calibre... Will see. So much work, so little time.
Yes, hands were soaked up, the end result was 6 out of 10 but still an improvement.
 
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Thank you for your comment. There is a substantial difference between modern watch movements (made in 1980s- to around 2010) and quality, vintage mechanisms which are built to last. When serviced on regular basis, vintage watches can last for 50-100 years.

Good video - looking forward to the next one.

Are you saying that modern movements have improved since c.2010?
 
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For example the brushing of the hour / minute hand was very intriguing . Were they just washed or just drybrushed?

Don't ask this magician to share his secrets! Remember what happened last time...

We are merely anonymous hobbyists.
 
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Hi Nic, thanks for a great video, I respect your expertise and secrets of the trade, but can you share what you used to remove the Chrono hand in the video? Where those end cutters and why? Thanks again.
 
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Thank you for your comment. There is a substantial difference between modern watch movements (made in 1980s- to around 2010) and quality, vintage mechanisms which are built to last. When serviced on regular basis, vintage watches can last for 50-100 years. On the other hand, modern watches routinely need replacement of main spring, barrel, rotor ball bearing, autoreverse wheels - once every 10 years. This is why watchmakers adore (and respect) pocket watches and calibres developed between WW2. They work.

No jewels were replaced, just cleaned and oiled.
That begs the question, does that mean current manufacturers built in planned obsolescence in their watches in order to generate service revenues? Why else would they make these parts wear out so soon? Is it because the newer parts and designs make the watches more accurate but the trade off being that they wear out faster?

Yes, hands were soaked up, the end result was 6 out of 10 but still an improvement.

Can the hands actually be polished to look better or is brushing the extent of the restoration without damage?
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That begs the question, does that mean current manufacturers built in planned obsolescence in their watches in order to generate service revenues? Why else would they make these parts wear out so soon? Is it because the newer parts and designs make the watches more accurate but the trade off being that they wear out faster?

I'll give my opinion here...I certainly agree with Nick that vintage parts hold up better than a lot of modern parts do. Is this "planned obsolescence"? Good question.

Watch parts are made very differently than they were 50 years ago. For example instead of wood polishing the leaves of pinions, they are now bulk polished - this results in a finishing standard that is not as good as it once was. Similarly, pivots of wheels are polished to give the high finish required, where they used to be burnished. Burnishing is a process that gives a high polish, but also works hardens the material and makes it more durable.

Were these changes done specifically for the reasons you state? Well assessing motives of others is difficult, but generally I believe these changes were made as efficiency gains/cost cutting measures, rather than to specifically to "generate service revenue" as you have stated. Of course those who feel very sour on the watch industry may take a different view, but having been in industry where decisions like this are made all the time, this is a result rather than a goal in my opinion.

There are other factors involved as well, for example many vintage watches are low beat watches, where most modern watches are higher beat watches. So yes "accuracy" (rate stabilization being the biggest contributor in my view) is better with higher beat watches than with lower. Also, people love a smoothly sweeping hand, compared to one that is more jerky in a lower beat watch. Higher beat rate watches tend to require stronger mainsprings, and also lesser finishing standards on watch parts (like the pinion leaves I mentioned above) add friction in the movement, also requiring a stronger mainspring. Stronger springs will increase the torque delivered, but also increase the forces at wear points.

Having said all this, my business is probably 75% vintage work, and in my experience it's rare that a vintage watch shows up that doesn't have worn parts inside. It might be that the wear is bad enough that the part needs to be replaced, or maybe a pivot is just a bit rough so that using the Jacot tool to burnish it is enough, but usually there is something that requires either repair or replacement.

And of course, the mainspring is always replaced, at least in my shop. So there's always at least one movement parts I'm replacing.

Cheers, Al
 
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Hi Nic, thanks for a great video, I respect your expertise and secrets of the trade, but can you share what you used to remove the Chrono hand in the video? Where those end cutters and why? Thanks again.

Hi Fred
Excellent question- and very important one. I have prepared a 2 minutes video with explanation (watch until the end)
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Thank you Nick for posting your complete service of the $100,000 Daytona. I truly admire the skill of watchmakers. It reminds me in some ways of microsurgery. A mechanical puzzle marvel. Thanks.
 
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Hi Fred
Excellent question- and very important one. I have prepared a 2 minutes video with explanation (watch until the end)
Am I missing something? That video is on removing and installing spring bars.