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Very interesting dial but is it really original?

  1. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Oct 3, 2016

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    The seller claims the dial is all original. I have my doubts. The proportions look really funky. Thoughts?

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  2. Bumper Oct 3, 2016

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    Redial.
     
  3. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 3, 2016

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    The case is beat, worn and polished.........but the dial is pristine.... It's a miracle, a miracle!
     
  4. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Oct 3, 2016

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    wait -- what did YOUR research show?????

    ::stirthepot::
     
  5. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Oct 3, 2016

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    If you look closely, just below the "waterproof" script, you will see that Steve is absolutely correct...
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  6. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Oct 3, 2016

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    My research shows that you're messing with my schtick.
     
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  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 3, 2016

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    I found only one other Longines with the same reference online:

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    http://www.watchtalkforums.info/forums/thread49118.html

    Based on the pictures, I'm not ready to totally dismiss the black one as a redial. The "waterproof" looks different, but Longines sometimes oused different fonts on the dials.

    Seconds hand is definitely not correct.
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  8. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Oct 4, 2016

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    I think I'm leaning toward this one being original and the OP being a redial. The thing that has bothered me most about the black dial version, is the hour markers extend so far past the minute markers. They don't on @gatorcpa example which, to me, is much more visually appealing and, to me, more likely scenario. On the other hand, I may be totally wrong.
     
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  9. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2016

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    Hi gents,
    I don't understand why the OP should/ is a redial. The Longines logo looks perfect.
    I can distinguish old radium lume plots on some of the indexes. The swiss mark seems good.
    The case is scratched but why would it mean the dial must be beat? Scratches are not corrosion are they?
    A dial is protected by a crystal which can be changed, no?
    The movement seems in good condition, but the pics are somewhat blurry and overprocessed --that's a definite caveat to be cleared.
    Also it seems we'd need better pictures of the minute indexes to see the quality of the print.
    I would not advocate to buy anything in haste, however, why jump to the conclusion that something is "too pristine to be original" ? "Pristine" is not enough to mean "redial".
    Or else we cast an unfair veil of suspicion on many fine watches and collections.
    Happy to stand corrected.
     
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  10. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 4, 2016

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    That was my first impression. But a hand was replaced, the case is in rough shape (and the dial isn't).

    It's not enough to make a declaration as to a redial or not, but enough to make me to want to punt on 4th down.
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  11. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2016

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    Er... .how does this translate in straight non-American non-sports English?
     
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  12. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 4, 2016

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    Not to try for the score (win) and call a play that will give you a chance later. = not to buy this one, but to wait for a more sure purchase later.
     
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  13. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2016

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    Thanks - was that American football? (I don't suppose it was cricket).
     
  14. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 4, 2016

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    yes
     
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  15. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2016

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    Thanks much :)
     
  16. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Oct 4, 2016

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    Think of it as a defender deep in his own team's end passing back to the keeper instead of trying to beat a striker from the other team and dribbling out of the back.
     
  17. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 4, 2016

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    OK. 3rd down, if you're Canadian. :p

    Yes, in other words, if you are not sure, don't buy it.
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  18. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 4, 2016

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    Exactly. Whatever you just said.
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  19. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 4, 2016

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    Thanks for the explanation. These US sports idioms are really very cryptic for people who didn't grow up in the US.
    (Do women in the US even understand them? That would be an interesting poll to take :))
     
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  20. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Oct 4, 2016

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    I have season tickets to the Dolphins. I'd say 40% of people at games are women.

    Most know.
    gatorcpa
     
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