Valjoux 7750 Chrono movement

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Owning several versions of Tudor, & IWC Chronographs…amongst others

I have always found the 7750 movement to be pretty ‘bullet proof’ as long as you simply take care of it, and service it regularly

One mans ‘agricultural’, …is another mans, Panzer
 
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Most decent winders are programmed to rotate enough to keep the watch fully wound, and not more. If you put a 7750 on a bidirectional winder, it will only be winding half as much as it should, and will gradually lose power. I have experienced this personally and my friend also had the same problem with a modern Breitling that has a 7750-based movement. Fortunately, my winder had unidirectional modes, but his did not, and he was really pissed off.

My winder has different modes so you can choose how you want it to rotate and how often. I guess it depends on the winder
 
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My winder has different modes so you can choose how you want it to rotate and how often. I guess it depends on the winder

I have a Wife, like that…
 
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The 7750 seems to have an impeccable history in terms of reliability and service life. As Archer said, you will not find many complaints about winding performance - not even of the Selitta version (SW500) 😁 This is very much in contrast to some more recent and more expensive constructions like the B01.
Something I have experienced on a regular basis with this movement is chrono hand jerk. I know this is due to the horizontal clutch, tolerance and resonance in the chrono seconds gear train and does effect other horizontally coupled movements as well. But in fact I have never seen it as often and as pronounced as on the 7750. Not on our beloved moon watch caliber, not on the ElPrimero which are both horizontally coupled as well. In fact I have had a Junghans Chronoscope where the chrono second hand was moving with half the frequency it should. This sort of bugs me with high class watches. For military style watches, Fliegers its acceptable for me 😗.
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Here is my Panzer. German built with hardened steel case and a 7750 movement.

I wear this doing things I won’t subject my Speedy to, and still not a scratch or mar on the watch!
 
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Something I have experienced on a regular basis with this movement is chrono hand jerk.

What exactly does this mean? Do you mean the hand jumps on the start, or is erratic as it moves around the dial?
 
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What exactly does this mean? Do you mean the hand jumps on the start, or is erratic as it moves around the dial?
I mean the second hand not advancing with a smooth 8Hz movement but stutter now and then, catching up on the next tick. The hand of this Chronoscope was advancing with a rate of 4Hz constantly. I took a long exposure and couldn't believe it. Have to try to find it .
 
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I mean the second hand not advancing with a smooth 8Hz movement but stutter now and then, catching up on the next tick. The hand of this Chronoscope was advancing with a rate of 4Hz constantly. I took a long exposure and couldn't believe it. Have to try to find it .

It’s an adjustment of the oscillating pinion, or to the friction for the chronograph wheel. Should be easy to fix at service.
 
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My only chronograph is a 7750 derived calibre 1154. I've found it to be reliable and accurate.

 
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Yes, parts are available, and watchmakers know how to service it, but that doesn't make it a good movement. We see similar phenomena in many industries, where a dominant company foists its cheap, mediocre components onto the market. Just because they are common doesn't mean they are well-made, sturdy, robust, etc., and we should make the distinction clear.

Good automatic chronograph movements do exist (e.g. Zenith 3019), and I think it is unfortunate that the most common automatic chronograph movement in 2019 (even in decent brands) is so heavy, clunky, thick, and noisy ... and inefficient because of unidirectional winding. If your autowinder doesn't have a unidirectional mode, your 7750 will eventually run down while sitting on the winder. Just an unsophisticated movement IMO.

Well, I'm no watch maker and I'm not an engineer either but the wobbler is an amazingly succesful product in terms of market penetration globally - over how many years? Some of us unsophisticates enjoy the layout (whether it's "in balance" or not is a matter of opinion too) and the wobble and say what you like, there are more Toyota pickup trucks on the roads of the world than any "upper market sector" manufacturer ever made. If one of my 7750 watches ever dies it'll be simple process to get a new movement fitted.

A world which didn't have space for (if you must) lower spec chronos would be a much poorer place imho.

Oh did someone mention Omega having a 7750 engine?
 
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Also relevant to mention that the Omega caliber 3330 is based on the 7750, but adding a column wheel + co-axial escapement + Silicon balance spring and a bigger power reserve:
 
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And the Longines caliber L707.

The Master collection Retroverse Moonphase is not too shabby, no?
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It’s an adjustment of the oscillating pinion, or to the friction for the chronograph wheel. Should be easy to fix at service.
Thank's Archer, that is what I heard before.
However I have been warned that this is more a temporary fix and can not be expected to be good until next service.

For the record, this is the 4 Hz Chronoscope (was brand new BTW):
 
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However I have been warned that this is more a temporary fix and can not be expected to be good until next service.

If it's adjusted properly, it won't go out of adjustment, so I really don't know what you mean by that...
 
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There seemed to be a consensus that the adjustment is a fine line and subject to run in changes.
I can't confirm if this is true. However I have been paying attention to this phenomenon when ever I get a 7750 in my hands. And I could see it in a lot. Would say more than two thirds. However most of them sporadic but favoring a certain attitude of the hand towards gravity. Which makes sense to my physical understanding of the problem.

I have been wondering why the 7750 should be more prone to that. I have now answer but it seems to be so from my observations.
 
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I have been wondering why the 7750 should be more prone to that. I have now answer but it seems to be so from my observations.

It isn't. Again if it's adjusted properly, and the friction is in good shape, this is not a problem.