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A good portion of this thread, including from me, was critiquing the apparent sh*tshow here in the states.
So as my lead-in suggested:
Just offering a contrary view I came across, and the possibility that sometimes intuitions/feelings can be contrary to reality - or, if nothing else, things could be even worse.
my understanding is an initial dose without the second was proven to not convey much immunity, hence why rollouts are focused more on making sure the second dose is administered and not just first dosing all people.
In the category of intuitions being contrary to reality:
America's vaccine rollout has been among the best in the world
“The big picture: The U.S. has carried out more vaccinations than any country in the world, and given a first dose to a higher percentage of its population (12%) than all but five countries: Israel, the Seychelles, the UAE, the U.K. and Bahrain. In fact, the U.S. is distributing doses three times as quickly as the EU, adjusted for population, and nearly five times as quickly as Canada.
Yes, but: The U.S. has secured world-leading vaccine supplies, but been somewhat less successful at translating them into actual vaccinations.
The bottom line: America’s vaccine rollout has been imperfect, unequal, and at times deeply frustrating. But look around the world and it’s clear that it could be going a whole lot worse.“
That's not the case.
Got my first jab (AstraZeneca) on Friday. No ill effects except pain in the injection site.
Yeah, pieces of steel in the flesh have that effect. It's worse if they break off and stay in there. An ex-machinist's opinion ......
For us up here in the Great White North, supply is the primary issue. You can't "roll out" what you don't have...although the situation is set to be improving soon apparently.
But it's not exactly a fair competition after all, and the results will vary depending on how you look at the data. If you want to look at how well the vaccine rollout is going (how well it is being administered) then looking at the doses available to you compared to what has been given is likely the best measure. No idea what that number is for the US.
I like this. We need a "What Watch Did Your Wear to Get Vaccinated" thread.
That's not the case. The Phase III trial data for the Pfizer vaccine showed that after 12 days participants were essentially fully protected, even though they didn’t get the second dose until day 21. Pfizer assumed a 5 day incubation period, meaning that people were protected from infection about 7 days after the first injection. Ongoing immunological studies show that the second dose boosts the response, with the major likely benefit of extending its longevity significantly. We just don’t know how long it will last without that second dose, which is why the USA don’t want to change the advice unless and until we do get that data.
