Had the virus last year. Got JNJ at the Indy Motor Speedway on Sunday.
Hit hard about midnight on Sunday. Felt exactly like the symptoms I had during the actual virus for about 4 hours. Was sluggish yesterday but basically 90% today.
I've heard that the second Pfizer shot is rough because the new anti-bodies are fighting the anti-bodies created by the first shot
You have heard wrong, after the first injection of an antigen the body starts production of antibodies (or B-cells) this progresses over time. When the second injection (commonly called a ‘booster’) is given then the body reacts to produce greater numbers of antibodies, or ‘boosts’ the number of B-cells. The older you are the higher the likelihood of systemic and local reaction.
Antibodies do not attack antibodies.
Adverse reactions to covid vaccines are generally mild and transient, even if you are unlucky enough to get a systemic reaction it is better than getting the disease, everyone should get their shots.
If anyone has concerns, look at the science yourself, don’t just read the headlines.
As an example, scroll to the final paragraph of this.....
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/reactogenicity.html
Circumstantial is, well, circumstantial.
But my symptoms for actually getting COVID were about 10x what I had after the vaccine. Seems logical.
I had the virus in mid-March (“Ok, babe. We are going into quarantine next week, I think. Let’s go to a Paddy’s Day celebration with 300 people), so at least some immunity should have eroded.
I heard that covid is not as bad as the flu and that it's hyped up by the press (couple days ago from a lumber yard worker.)
I saw dead bodies and people bloated trying to breath.
So, so sick of stupid and stubborn.
So a full update...
Last Thursday 9 am 1st Moderna shot.
Thursday night, start of aches and pains.
Friday, full body aches and pains. Difficult to walk. Strong fatigue. Took afternoon off, went back to bed.
Saturday, aches and pains gone, but severe fatigue.
Sunday, tired but functional. Took a bike ride around neighborhood, eager to get home. Took a nap.
Today(Monday), feel normal again. No pain, no fatigue.
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2nd shot last Thursday 9am:
9PM Thurs aches and pains
Friday Full body aches and pains. difficult to move. spent most of day in bed.
Saturday aches and pains gone but severe fatigue
Sunday, tired but functional
Monday, took mountain bike ride. Felt normal.
Summary: both shots had identical reactions. Both reactions of same magnitude and duration.
My wife had NO reaction to first shot(same Moderna) but severe flu like reaction to second shot that lasted two days(fever, nausea, headaches). Very different than mine.
I have been told by several different people that the reaction I had is indicative of having already had COVID. I can find no information on this but am curious if this is a common conception?
For me, I wanted to feel a reaction, so I'd have some indication that I was getting an immune response.
An opinion from an infectious disease doc I read recently stated that there is not a high correlation they can find between the extent of side-effects and the immune response, so you’d probably be covered even if you didn’t get the subsequent symptoms.
An older guy at the store today told me was getting his second Pfizer shot today. I told him to be prepared to "Ride the Nightmare".
I've heard that the second Pfizer shot is rough because the new anti-bodies are fighting the anti-bodies created by the first shot.
Many pointed out feeling the side effects of the vaccine 10-12 hours after that second shot.
"It's basically a code that gets your body to begin producing the spike protein. Which then your body starts saying 'oh this is foreign, I've never seen this before I'm going to develop antibodies to it.' That just takes a little bit of time. That whole manufacturing process to work," said Dr. Wachter.
