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  1. RedMac Dec 18, 2017

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    Thank you TLIGuy and Speedy Phill for tracking down photos of the TMG and its use on Shuttle EVA missions. Here is one is an example of the glove that you are discussing on the thread. We know the Bill Lenoir trained in the NBL with such a glove. This glove shows a lot of use at some point. Now if I could only find the watch that was attached to it.



    Early STS TMG glove.jpg TMG Glove with watch attachment back.JPG
     
  2. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Dec 19, 2017

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    Is that a complete ILC glove or just the other layer :thumbsdown: ... Anyway superb display item !!!
     
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  3. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Dec 19, 2017

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    Google will not bring up any results... :D
    You need to have the paper NASA-issued photos to bring the complete Omega Speedmaster chronograph history :whistling:
    MoonwatchUniverse instagram posted larger parts of these STS-6 NASA color photos
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  4. RedMac Dec 19, 2017

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    It is the TMG or Thermal Micrometeor Garment layer. Yes, it is the outer layer of the ILC EVA glove. Wish I could find a complete set of EVA gloves from the Shuttle or ISS, but NASA uses them as NBL training gloves until they are worn out and then hands them off to museums. The ILC label is stitched way up inside the TMG. Those are great photos that you found of the glove type in use.
     
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  5. TLIGuy Dec 19, 2017

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    Since @SpeedyPhill was able to identify the missions the EVA glove was used with the sewn in watch a search of the NASM collection shows that the flown gloves used by Kathryn Sullivan on STS-41G are part of the NASM non-displayed collection.

    Image Credits - NASM

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  6. RedMac Dec 19, 2017

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    Nice photos. Here is some information on the TMG with the watch holder. TMG.jpg
     
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  7. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Jan 13, 2018

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  8. RedMac Jan 14, 2018

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    Have is are some photos of one of the early Shuttle EVA glove TMGs
     
    Shuttle TMG back 1.JPG Shuttle TMG side 1.JPG Shuttle TMG back w watch 1.JPG Shuttle TMG back w watch closed 1.JPG Shuttle TMG front.JPG
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  9. Starman71 Jan 14, 2018

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    Its too bad about that flap protecting the speedmaster. Who would like to be able to say, "Original non-polished crystal with authentic micrometeorite scratches?"
     
  10. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Jan 19, 2018

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    @TLIGuy
    Thx for the new vintage Apollo era Garland P-35 mechanical pencil...
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    Only 20 months on OmegaForums and already 5 Omegarevelations... that was one every 120 days...
    and more to come as we celebrate 1969-2019 = 50 years Alaskaproject :whistling:
     
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  11. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested May 28, 2018

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    This space shuttle era spacewalk story might even become more interesting as it's more likely that an Alaska III Speedmaster could have been used during a spacewalk aboard a Space Transportation System (STS) mission...
    We already pointed out that a pair of ex-Alaska II chronographs in red outer cases were used by Soviet-Russian cosmonauts...
    So both American astronauts & Russian cosmonauts (Salyut-6) end up having used iconic Omega Alaska Project time pieces !!!
    ::book:: MoonwatchUniverse
    Now I'm even more excited by a Limited Edition Alaska Project time piece to celebrate 50 years Alaska Project next year 2019
     
  12. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Jul 13, 2018

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    Here are those time-period STS-6 NASA photos in the familiar MoonwatchUniverse folder, which can be browsed during one of our upcoming lectures in Geneva, Zagreb and London... ::book::
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  13. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Jul 14, 2018

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    As we're celebrating 35 years since this first space shuttle era EVA - spacewalk, just wanted to point out that it looks like the Omega Speedmaster chronographs "sewn-in" the right glove remained with the space suit for the entire mission as other STS-6 mission photos show Story Musgrave wearing a pair of Seiko A829-6020 watches with red&black bezel
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  14. TLIGuy Sep 15, 2019

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    Here is an update with some new information that I was able to compile and a nice selection of new images showing the use of the Speedmaster during EVA's by American astronauts up until its use was discontinued.

    To update and answer the question of when was the last time an American astronaut wore a Speedmaster externally during an EVA, it was on September 16, 1993, by astronauts James Newman and Carl Walz during their STS-51 EVA.

    Here is a chronological history of the EMU glove with the integrated Speedmaster covered by the flap. A few of the images reveal a peek at the Speedmaster but I have been told that if the glove had the flap a Speedmaster would have been present as standard equipment whether it is seen or not.

    Picking up with the first Shuttle EVA during STS-6...

    1000 Series EMU Baseline Glove. This glove can be identified by the tan canvas palm. There was a later 2000 Series Modified EMU Baseline Glove that did not fly.

    STS-6 - April 7, 1983

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    The following are images in chronological order using the 1000 Series Glove. The flap seen on the right glove indicates a Speedmaster was in use.

    STS-41B - February 7, 1984

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    STS-41C - April 8, 1984

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    STS-41G - October 11, 1984

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    STS-51A - November 12, 1984

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    STS-51D - April 16, 1985

    STS-51D with watch edge visible.

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    STS-51I - August 31, 1985

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    Introduction of the 3000 Series EMU Glove an evolution of the 2000 Series. This glove can be identified by the gray rubber palm. There was also a 4000 series but it's use is questionable and was introduced during the delay period following the Challenger accident.

    STS-61B - November 29, 1985

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    Introduction of the 5000 Series EMU Glove and evolution of the 3000/4000 series. Flight version of the Phase IV High Pressure Glove

    STS-37 - April 7, 1991

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    Introduction of the 4750 Series EMU Glove and evolution of the 4000 Series w/ 5000 series TMG (Thermal Micrometeoride Garment)

    STS-49 - May 10, 1992

    STS-49 with watch edge visible.

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    STS-54 - January 17, 1993

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    STS-57 - June 25, 1993

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    STS-51 - September 16, 1993

    Astronauts James Newman and Carl Walz during their EVA, the last to wear the 4750 Series Glove with the integrated Speedmaster September 16, 1993.

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    Introduction of the Phase VI current EVA Glove variant no longer carrying the intergrated Speedmaster and its use during EVA's by American astronauts is discontinued.

    STS-61 - December 5, 1993

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    There you have it. More than you ever wanted to or needed know about the subject of EVA gloves.
     
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  15. TLIGuy Feb 26, 2020

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    Today I had the opportunity to spend the afternoon at ILC Dover the manufacturer of EVA suits and check out their collection of gloves including the earlier models with the integrated Speedmaster.

    Here is a preview of a flown glove that was returned to the manufacture to inspect the damage resulting from sliding the glove across the surface of the ISS handrails. The handrails develop small sharp cuts in the surface from micrometeorite strikes that in turn can cut into the palms of the gloves.

    It was interesting to learn that a representative from the company is in the loop during all EVA's and will conduct a glove check every hour in which the astronaut will hold up both hands so the glove palms can be inspected by the company representative for damage.

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  16. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Apr 25, 2022

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  17. SpeedyPhill asked ages ago but no longer interested Jan 9, 2023

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    TMG layers with pocket for the NASA-issued Speedmaster still in use for Mars mission testing :whistling:
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