Four Speedmasters - and compared to the last offerings they are not that interesting.

Two from the MWO book.

An Alaska prototype.

A 105.003 priced at around $20,000 !

A review here, http://speedmaster101.com/blog/phillips-auction-where-are-all-the-speedmasters/

What do we all think?

 

I think the Alaska proto is WAY off on its estimate to the high side. It would be interesting to know the reserve. I'm no expert, but I'd wager it won't make it.

 

Re: 105.003 - for $20K at the low estimate, I'd at least want the lume to have not fallen out of the hands and the case to still prominently display its original bevels. Wow.

Re: Alaska - I hear you on the fairly unnecessary creation in the first place. If I was going to drop $100,000 on a Speedmaster, it would be a 2915 and nothing else. Will be interesting to watch it.

Re: 105.012 - it appears to be a CB with polished lugs. Dial and hands are nice. The range is reasonable if it had a DON and less-polished facets on top of the lugs. As-is, I'd rather be keenly aware of the OF sales section and find a similar example for less than this will inevitably fetch.

My two cents.

 

Also should note - there are some really awesome watches in this auction in the non-Omega realm. Will likely be bidding.

 

My faves of the auction:

 

I think I agree with that

 

Isn't that Alaska Project the James Dowling one ?

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6554941&rid=0

 

I have no idea on the Alaska. I don't find it remotely attractive, so I wouldn't buy it at 3k, Nevermind 100k. I completely agree that if I were spending that amount, it would be on a 2915 (and a hotel after the old girl turfed me out when she found out). Strange to see a 2911xxxx without a DoN bezel.

The Apollo 11 does nothing for me.

I think the -66 is ok. It has a nice dial and I'm liking the alternate bezels at the minute. I'd need to know it was vintage though, and while I think I've got the decimal bezels down, I still can't tell with the telemeter ones. The case has obviously been polished/refinished which is unfortunate. I think it's reasonably attractive though. I think it'll sell to someone new to Speedmasters.

Same with the 105.003. At first glance it looks nice and attractive. Original bezel with honest wear, nice lume and dial, case is polished but ok. However, the closer I look I see more little bits that make me think at 10-12k, this is a nice watch, but I'm not sure it'll get to 20k. Is the provenance that important? It isn't to me. Nevertheless, nice watch, just not at 20k.

 

certainly is annoying that auction houses can get extracts. I recently had one rejected for lack of records with a 20,552,xxx movement number.

prices seem high to me, I think I would have taken that ebay -61 with missing parts over this ed white.

is that case profile the 105.003-64 "no bevels" case that Tom Dick discovered not long ago?

 

Well...Should be interesting to keep an eye on that Auction...Being in Geneva i guess i will pay them a visit..

 

True. But Lot 42 is not one of them. G381 with A386 service dial. Yikes.

 

Discussed here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/zenith-from-the-new-phillips-sale.46649

 

Stupid day job. I miss all the fun stuff.

"Full-Antiquorum." Ha!

 

Oh, my lord, that JLC is amazing!

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The IWC raises a lot of questions though... The case is 100% refinished. The dial is most likely reprinted : (

 

Hmm on second look, the dial does raise some questions. I've never seen two-tone dials refinished to this degree, but I'd love to see it in person. What makes you say the case is refinished? I'm not refuting it, but the finishing appears to be correct (at least with the limited amount of pics) and the lugs don't look too thin. Perhaps the fact that it doesn't come with the original box supports your claim, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.

 

IWC, I believe, is a redial. Love the watch though.....

Darren

 

Good luck bidding you all

 

The Geophysic is underpriced at CHF15-25,000. Steel, good condition and the original plexi with the lume plots? one went for CHF52,000 at Antiquorum a couple of years ago.

 

I have seen a lot multi-tone dials refinished to this degree, or somewhere close. The thing is - signature cliche is not the most common one, and is extremely similar to the one used by some refinishers. The sector part lacks accuracy and is a way too bold, it actually looks like the paint just got dry. The track on the sub-dial also reminds me various refinished dials coming from one team of dial makers. All in all, we need more images (including inside part of the case / movement / caseback) to have final conclusion.

The case is very obviously polished (look at the space between lugs) and is a way too clean for the age (shouldn't they call it NOS then?). High-polished surfaces even on the steel are so easy to scratch... even with napkin! In fact correct finishing doesn't mean anything, because some good watchmakers can refinish case to near-factory specs. Please see some examples of refinished IWCs I used to have.