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universemania
·Ref. 109260 is another one which has the marks outside on the caseback. This one is offered here:
https://www.fashionacedesigns.com/v...17-jewels-winding-watch-109260-cal-264-exlnt/
Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerRemotely similar dials: I think so yes
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universemania
·Remotely similar dials: I think so yes
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerDon't have links I'm afraid but I think the (general) design of this one is not unique
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bgrisso
·Has anyone seen another one of these with an even remotely similar dial?
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universemania
·This is a redial.
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Tohz
·This is a redial.
This is the only picture I have on hand at the moment, but I'll post more once I take it out of the safe next time.
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universemania
·I'm not entirely sure about it. I purchased a similar watch in France some years ago, which independently has very similar print features - particularly also the large letters in the signature. I always assumed it was a redial, but now I have my doubts.
This is the only picture I have on hand at the moment, but I'll post more once I take it out of the safe next time.
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Tohz
·That looks very similar to all the ones I saw in my research but black. The big deco numbers and much more prominent “Universal Geneve” along with the red seconds hand of that other piece didn’t seem to match anything else I could find.
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Tohz
·Similar dial from the catalogs
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bgrisso
·The thing that looks most off to me on the previous watch in discussion is the Universal Geneve text, without serifs and pointy. I have not seen this before on an original dial. But that catalog pic above looks kind of pointy and non serify. (I would have to see much better pics of your time only example, I can't see hardly anything).
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·The thing that looks most off to me on the previous watch in discussion is the Universal Geneve text, without serifs and pointy. I have not seen this before on an original dial. But that catalog pic above looks kind of pointy and non serify. (I would have to see much better pics of your time only example, I can't see hardly anything).
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·Definitely a deco style in that catalog example! Text is much smaller and lower than the one for sale. Seems more plausible that it was at least based off a legitimate design but something still feels off to me. My opinion is worth little to nothing on this though, I am here to learn how to discern such things from the experts 😀
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banders
·Cool double-signed 52216:
https://omegaforums.net/posts/2451248/
banders ·
Gumbiner 52216
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- replaced crown
- mismatched hour/minute hands (assuming this is wrong)
- no case number provided
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer
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Now that’s a dial! Looks like someone got a deal too
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.
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Beautiful dial, shouldn’t a 4xxxx case ref be gold plated ?
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerIndeed. So it was not 100% correct
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerRare ref 22268 which is - according to the seller - 100% original 
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/326433224421
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/326433224421
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