Universal Geneve Tri-Compax H.P.C

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The differences of the small hands is to match the printing of the sub dials (I was told )
 
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The differences of the small hands is to match the printing of the sub dials (I was told )
Just noticed the emoji added to the statement above isn’t there.
Don’t shake your head too much, I don’t believe it neither. Would make it a 1 of 1
 
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Well ... It is not a 22297 1 ...Guess that was a red herring so to speak. The serial would fit the moon disc but the closed 6 makes this a later dial. No question that its a UG dial however. Since UG did not start using logo on their crowns till 50's, the crown is later as well. The bigger issue is that the reference 21311 is for an SS calendar watch .. page 416 in Sala. Can you get a shot of the inside case back?
 
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Thanks.

I missed the inside case back shot, I’m quite sure it was blank.

Still don’t know what to do… can feel a kind of attraction. How much of it… well, translates into $
 
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the second number in the case reference is 1 for time only and 2 for chronograph, so this is a major problem. You should never see a Tri compax that is X1XXX

it would help to see inside case back to see if this is even a UG case?

anyhow, very strange
 
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the second number in the case reference is 1 for time only and 2 for chronograph, so this is a major problem. You should never see a Tri compax that is X1XXX

it would help to see inside case back to see if this is even a UG case?

anyhow, very strange
Ah but another UG mystery to amuse …..
 
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I can find examples of 21331 chronographs.
None so far with a 283 movement and the moon phase at 12.

The case back did look and feel as a perfect match. Steel I do know… other things especially related to UG not so much (yet)
 
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I can find examples of 21331 chronographs.
None so far with a 283 movement and the moon phase at 12.

The case back did look and feel as a perfect match. Steel I do know… other things especially related to UG not so much (yet)
Get yourself a copy of Sala. Short money over the prices of correct and incorrect UG complication watches.
 
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I can find examples of 21331 chronographs.
None so far with a 283 movement and the moon phase at 12.

The case back did look and feel as a perfect match. Steel I do know… other things especially related to UG not so much (yet)

Example? Don’t confuse calendars with chronos….
 
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Dial is authentic
Case looks like a 222100 one
Movement is a 283 with data and moon complications
Caseback looks fake to me

Overall, a franken with a fake caseback
 
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I owned a UG Tri-Compax Moon 222100-1 for awhile. An absolute gorgeous watch that was a total pain to get repaired and find parts for. I sold it off because it spent more time in service than it did on my wrist.
 
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I owned a UG Tri-Compax Moon 222100-1 for awhile. An absolute gorgeous watch that was a total pain to get repaired and find parts for. I sold it off because it spent more time in service than it did on my wrist.
They are old watches from a defunct manufacturer, yet for me they are the very essence of vintage. My more complex UG are occasionally in for adjustments. Most of the time they are free. The annoyance is compensated by their sheer coolness.
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Within the repair/restore community I believe you will find UG chronographs to be highly regarded for their robust designs and constructions. Switch gear is always column wheel driven versus the cam drive of most vintage landerons and lemanias. With a few exceptions the complications available are on a different plane as compared to those offered by any other vintage manufacturers.

I'm a fan boy--
-these watches are still way underrated IMHO.

Parts of course are difficult to source as are most vintage parts, if you think UG is tough try finding a part for a vintage Patek and if you do bring a bank account with you because you'll need it!

I think most service issues are related to previous mis-service issues; once adjusted properly my UG chronographs seem to run pretty much without issue.
 
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Within the repair/restore community I believe you will find UG chronographs to be highly regarded for their robust designs and constructions. Switch gear is always column wheel driven versus the cam drive of most vintage landerons and lemanias. With a few exceptions the complications available are on a different plane as compared to those offered by any other vintage manufacturers.

I'm a fan boy--
-these watches are still way underrated IMHO.

Parts of course are difficult to source as are most vintage parts, if you think UG is tough try finding a part for a vintage Patek and if you do bring a bank account with you because you'll need it!

I think most service issues are related to previous mis-service issues; once adjusted properly my UG chronographs seem to run pretty much without issue.
Agree. The really old birds however, like old cars develop cranky irritations that need teasing out. Especially after years of uncertain support. I changed my post to “occasional”.