Universal Geneve Compur 30 RLM-Nav

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nomorebets

·May 15, 2017

Hi !,

I wanted to show this rare Universal Geneve RLM 1941-1942 and wanted to hear your opinion about it. t was given to the pilots of naval aviation. is this true?is it possible to install pilots, which the Luftwaffe air group were given?

 

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jordn

·May 15, 2017

This is a great watch in very nice and overall original condition, but yes, assigned to the Luftwaffe by the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) for aerial navigation.

nomorebets

is it possible to install pilots, which the Luftwaffe air group were given?

Could you clarify what you mean by this?

 

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Florent

·May 15, 2017

This is a nice UG with a Spillman waterproof case (a lot of famous brand used this case).

The dial seems relumed, ad the hours and minute hands. However all hands are original.

The crown might be a replacement ...

This black dial is quite nice and looks OK to me

That's all I can say about it

 

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nomorebets

·May 16, 2017

jordn

This is a great watch in very nice and overall original condition, but yes, assigned to the Luftwaffe by the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) for aerial navigation.

Could you clarify what you mean by this?

I mean, is it possible to find out the owner (pilot) of these watches or identify the Luftwaffe group by the special number of these watches?

 

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Diabolik

·May 16, 2017

Beautiful.

Dibs

 

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Diabolik

·May 16, 2017

nomorebets

I mean, is it possible to find out the owner (pilot) of these watches or identify the Luftwaffe group by the special number of these watches?

difficult. Most luftwaffe records pertaining to WWII are gone. It is a bit like working your way through a maze and picking up clues as you go along. Any chance of tracing provenance via seller?

 

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nomorebets

·May 16, 2017

history is the following: the famous Soviet ACE Pokryshkin together with led Golubev landed on the ground almost untouched German fighter Focke-Wulf 190.these watches Pokryshkin presented to his engineer.so the watches are safed up to nowadays. they have been laying for more than 30 years lay in a box of rubbish.I'm surprised they were not thrown into the trash)) but how these watches came from naval aviation to Jagdeschwader, it is not known))

 

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LouS

·May 16, 2017·Mrs Nataf's Other Son

Nothing about naval aviation in Knirim, just Luftwaffe. Also no record of issue to my knowledge, so not possible to link them with individuals or units. This watch is legit, and original but for the relume in the hands.

 

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nomorebets

·May 17, 2017

The background is not so big. soon I will get a radiation meter and write the exact background.
it is champion-
LACO-Durowe Beobachtungsuhr FL 23883, 8000-10000 MD (the device off scale, it is difficult to measure precisely).
Some of the radioactive watches!

 

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bgrisso

·Sep 12, 2019

Side note to this somewhat old thread. It's hard to document RLM numbers and case serial on these, as they are quite rare and owners are often not sharing this information. From the limited sample size that I am finding so far (5 examples), the RLM appear to be clustered within a fairly tight case serial between 804839 and 805020.
However, it appears there are also non RLM Compur 30 scattered in this same range, so I don't think we can establish a definitive link between RLM and case serial.
I am recording this here just for documentation.

 

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kfranzk

·Feb 1, 2025

Navigation means find geographical location and direction of yourself or a target, original on sea, but used for air navigation or avigation even for artillery as well. So the RLM watches have nothing to do with operations of the navy.