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  1. CaptainWinsor Jan 22, 2020

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  2. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jan 22, 2020

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    Fake.
     
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  3. w154 Jan 22, 2020

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    Is that an “issue” ?

    :D
     
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  4. CaptainWinsor Jan 22, 2020

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    what exactly is fake? Everything?
     
  5. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jan 22, 2020

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    Yes.

    Not a UN movement; poor redial; presumably not a UN case, or the inside of the back would have been shown.
     
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  6. CaptainWinsor Jan 22, 2020

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    I thought that UN like a lot of makers sourced their chrono movements. This is why I don’t venture outside of my Zenith comfort zone
     
  7. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Jan 22, 2020

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    Those Venus movements were used a lot by Gallet, and by other manufacturers. But even if UN did use a base Venus in a small number of chronos, the finishing would have been much more fine.
     
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  8. Njnjcfp88 Jan 22, 2020

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    I thought the Venus 140 movement had 17 jewels ....
    OPs ‘Bay UN depicts 15. ???

    I agree w TonyC ...UN movements are finished very nicely.
     
  9. oinkitt Jan 23, 2020

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    I've collected Ulysse Nardin for 30 years and I wouldn't be so bold to say it was a total fake on the evidence supplied.

    I would say the watch is a real dog and I wouldn't buy it with your money.
     
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  10. oinkitt Jan 23, 2020

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    Not all Ulysse Nardin movements are finished very nicely. I have around 45 Ulysse Nardin watches with various levels of finish.
    Ulysse Nardin appear to have had 3 different levels of finishing during the 30s to the late 60s.
     
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  11. oinkitt Jan 23, 2020

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    Ulysse Nardin generally used Valjoux 22 and 23 chronograph movements. The Va;joux 23s were finished considerably better than the Valjoux 22s.

    There is a lot of fakery of vintage Ulysse Nardin watches, especially in South America.
     
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