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·I am interested in a vintage Ultramar, and I see one is for sale at Christies. Any advice if this is a correct one? Also what do you all think is a correct market price for one now. Any advice appreciated!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Is every speedmaster with an orange hand an ultraman these days?
How is one confident to know when an example is a real ultraman and not just an speedmaster with an exchanged service (in best case) hand?
Is every speedmaster with an orange hand an ultraman these days?
How is one confident to know when an example is a real ultraman and not just an speedmaster with an exchanged service (in best case) hand?
Is every speedmaster with an orange hand an ultraman these days?
How is one confident to know when an example is a real ultraman and not just an speedmaster with an exchanged service (in best case) hand?
At this time, it isn’t clear how many of them are around but once in a while, someone claims to have an all original Speedmaster Ultraman in his possession. Omega documented some of them as a Speedmaster that left the factory with an orange hand, as can be seen on the Extract of the Archives above. It is clear and confirmed that at least not all of these roughly 3000 pieces have an orange hand. Unconfirmed, it is said that less than 50 Ultraman watches are known/identified."
The best way to know would be to get an Extract based ONLY on the serial number. When pictures are sent in to Omega, I think all bets are off. There have been a few threads previously on this issue.
No, every Speedmaster with an orange hand is not an Ultraman. If an Omega Extract states that the Speedmaster was delivered with an orange hand, then you know it's the real deal.
"In the serial number range of roughly 3000 watches (26.076.xxx and 26.079.xxx, which corresponds to a production in 1968), an unknown number of watches were assembled with an orange hand. The reason is unknown, but after it became clear that these watches played a role in Ultraman, they were nicknamed ‘Speedmaster Ultraman’ or the ‘Ultraman Speedmaster’.
At this time, it isn’t clear how many of them are around but once in a while, someone claims to have an all original Speedmaster Ultraman in his possession. Omega documented some of them as a Speedmaster that left the factory with an orange hand, as can be seen on the Extract of the Archives above. It is clear and confirmed that at least not all of these roughly 3000 pieces have an orange hand. Unconfirmed, it is said that less than 50 Ultraman watches are known/identified."
Take a look at this article:
https://www.fratellowatches.com/speedmaster-ultraman/#gref
There is a pretty narrow range in which the originals are reckoned to sit. The auction watch has an extract too so it probably is legit. Just not very nice. I've never understood the massive premium for the Ultraman. They are far less rare than was first suspected, back when it was postulated there were only 50 made there could easily be several hundred out there, the range they are seen in is 3K serials wide...
Somewhere between 50-500. ☕
Thank you, so an EOA that confirms the orange hand plus the correct serial number is mandatory for it to be an ultraman?
Seems like a lot of owners to 68' regular speedmasters with correct serial number would mount an orange hand to get a pretty steep premium. Because regular speedmasters where made in the same serial range as the ultramans, right?
Just look at the other thread about the blue dialed ebay listing with an orange possibly not even correct ultraman hand where a buyer most likely just will fit the hand to another 68' example.
The constant rising amount of the original only 50-something pieces is also a bit concerning.
The best way to know would be to get an Extract based ONLY on the serial number.