UG Compax correct reference

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jsflog

·Apr 5, 2018

Hi All,

Can someone help me with the correct reference for this model.

Serial is not engraved or as it been polished form caseback

 

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Mazoue

·Apr 5, 2018

I think it might be the 22705-1

 

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bazderome

·Apr 5, 2018

22705-1 with Valjoux 72 ?

 

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bazderome

·Apr 5, 2018

Looks very similar to this one
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/UNIVERSAL-G...h-Stainless-Steel-Watch-cal-281-/352097663613

not sure 100% they got the ref right

 

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Florent

·Apr 5, 2018

The 22705-1 have a valjoux 72, different dial and chrono hand
This one is the earlier version with cal 281 ref 222101

 

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Florent

·Apr 5, 2018

222101
Cal 281
Brushed dial
Usual chrono hand

22705-1
Cal 130 (Val 72)
Different dial
Later chrono hand

The later one is rarer and more desirable to my eyes 😉

 

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jsflog

·Apr 5, 2018

Great.

Thanks for the information.

I agree with @Florent about the later being more desirable for some members, but I prefer UG with Martel movements.

Do you know if in ref 222101 the crown or the crystal were signed?

Thanks

 

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Florent

·Apr 5, 2018

Crystal was not signed but crown was 😀

 

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jsflog

·Apr 5, 2018

Florent

Crystal was not signed but crown was 😀

Thanks👍

 

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bgrisso

·Apr 5, 2018

chrono sweep seems short in first two pics? Most examples seem to extend into the tachy scale? Not to get side tracked but this is perhaps one of the potential models that is correct for the chrono sweep I am trying to identify. Flat, long, no date complication with cal 281.

 

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Diabolik

·Apr 5, 2018

One of my favorite references both the 222101-1 and the 22705-1 ... I shall be picking one up in Milan later this month and agree, the V72 powered is a little more desirable (only a little though). I have a beautiful NOS dial waiting to finish it off ...

 

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jsflog

·Apr 5, 2018

In both references are the ref and serial engraved in the case back?

Aren't these models prone to vanish those marks, as the engraving is very lightly done?

Honestly beside the chrono hand I could not see big differences in both dials,

Can you please give me some lights here, and also what details to look when trying to source one? Beside polishing and dial condition?

Thanks

 

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CajunTiger

·Apr 5, 2018

and dont forget the 22704-1...larger brother to the 22705-1

also with v72, but the earlier v72.6

 

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Mazoue

·Apr 5, 2018

jsflog

In both references are the ref and serial engraved in the case back?

Aren't these models prone to vanish those marks, as the engraving is very lightly done?

Honestly beside the chrono hand I could not see big differences in both dials,

Can you please give me some lights here, and also what details to look when trying to source one? Beside polishing and dial condition?

Thanks

I couldn't see the difference in the dials initially either but I think I am right in saying that it is the dial surface that it is different. The 222101-1 has a brushed finish (with brushing from top to bottom) whereas the 22705-1 has a silver sunburst finish radiating from the centre and with much less texture to the dial surface.

I attach two pictures borrowed from the internet that illustrate this difference.

 

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Xeer

·Apr 6, 2018

Dibsssssssss on every Compax shown here.

 

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Diabolik

·Apr 6, 2018

CajunTiger

and dont forget the 22704-1...larger brother to the 22705-1 also with v72, but the earlier v72.6

The V72's or caliber 130 is found in all late 50s early 60s UGs compax's. Later V72 powered UGs share a Caliber 85. The original 22706 evil nina is a grail in my eyes. Nothing better than a nina with a caliber 130.

 

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aap

·Apr 6, 2018

Florent

222101
Cal 281
Brushed dial
Usual chrono hand

22705-1
Cal 130 (Val 72)
Different dial
Later chrono hand

Is this confirmed, that the latter, Val 72 example only / always comes with the non-tear drop chrono sweep?