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  1. jsflog Sep 15, 2016

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    Hello All,

    I just bought this watch so, damage is done if it is not authentic.

    Could you please give me your opinion if this is real or fake/franken?

    I also bought Sala book on UG, but this reference is not there, but in the book it is written 20160908_124806.jpg 20160908_124815.jpg 20160908_124825.jpg 20160908_124846.jpg 20160908_124856.jpg 20160908_124942.jpg 20160908_124952.jpg that some models are not there.

    Please give me all the information you can.

    Thanks
     
  2. ELV web Sep 15, 2016

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    Redial and chrome plating falling apart, just avoid.
     
  3. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Sep 15, 2016

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    lesson I've learned is never buy without consulting the brain trust on this forum. Sala is a good reference but directional at best.
     
  4. jsflog Sep 15, 2016

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    Thanks for your comments.

    Can you pease explain me why you know it is a redial?
     
  5. Jonatan Sep 15, 2016

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    Sorry to say that yes it is a redial. I can't tell you all the signs, but I'm sure ELV web will chime in to answer your question.

    I was wondering if it's distortion of the image or can we see finger prints in the sub-dials at 6 (bottom and top) and 3 (bottom)?
     
  6. ELV web Sep 15, 2016

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    1) I think the correct dial should read compur 30 not compax 30. Compur would fit your serial number of 7xx,xxx which is very early
    2) the dial quality is just bad
    3) I am not so sure about the case as well, 7572 doesn't look like proper UG reference....
     
  7. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Sep 15, 2016

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    It is a proper early reference, before UG moved into the five digit system. Agree with your other points though
     
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  8. Diabolik Sep 16, 2016

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    It is a compax 30 with the 386 movement (quite difficult to find in original condition). I think it should look like this with a chrome case and maybe a silvered or black dial ... Pity it is a redial as it is quite desirable in its original form!

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  9. ELV web Sep 16, 2016

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    First time I see a compax 30, learned something new again ;)
     
  10. Diabolik Sep 16, 2016

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    a real beauty in black ...

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  11. Jonatan Sep 16, 2016

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    Would the compur have come before the compax 30? Or were they available at the same time? I was amazed at how similar they were.
     
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  12. jsflog Sep 16, 2016

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    Hi All,
    Thanks for all the information shared.
    I can agree that is a redial based in your experience, but please see the pictures attached, they are in SALA book (page 75 or 77).

    It seems UG produced COMPAX 30 with a different configuration dial from the previous pictures, and similar to mine.

    I believe based in the pics, that the hour and minute hands are also a replacement.

    Thanks for all your comments.
     
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  13. Dre Sep 16, 2016

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  14. jsflog Sep 16, 2016

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    HI Diabolik,
    Does the case reference number in yours COMAPX 30 is also 7572?

    Thanks,
     
  15. Diabolik Sep 16, 2016

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    No, it is a 12426 reference with a 8088xx serial

    I believe your dial should be this one ... (reference numbering probably changed that year as case reference 12421 (gold), has a serial of 774xxx and is just after yours)

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  16. ELV web Sep 16, 2016

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    Now, I think the picture is just telling us this is also potentially a Franken redial, as the case of OP's watch is from the era of old referencing (unsystematic) while the compax 30 case, although quite early, is from a later period where the reference number system is already in used.
     
  17. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Sep 16, 2016

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    There are many Compurs with 5 digit references.
     
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  18. ELV web Sep 16, 2016

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    Edited to make the point i was trying to make clearer
     
  19. jsflog Sep 19, 2016

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    Thanks for all your posts, but I still believe this model did existed with a dial similar to the one I have.

    I have found on the internet some models similar to this, so I presume they did existed with this configuration.

    In fact mine as a poor redial, but I believe the case, caseback and movement are good.

    Please have a look at the pictures.

    Thanks
     
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  20. ELV web Sep 19, 2016

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    I second that the case and case back are good. It is just that the redialer choose a dial style that probably belong to later case. In any event, I think you could have some good fun hunting for a genuine NoS dial :thumbsup: