Two Ed Whites on the block earlier today.

jaegodylan · Aug 24, 2020

Thought the Fellows auction may be of interest to the folks here.

Two Ed White's weren't exactly the star of the show, that title went to a Milsub that sold for a whopping £174,800 after premium, but they did have a presence!

First up Lot 55 which was a fairly rough looking Ed White with an Ultraman hand. The bracelet looks like the Incredible Hulk wore while he got mad a few times.

Lot 55 Ed White

"OMEGA - a gentleman's Speedmaster 'Ed White' chronograph bracelet watch. Stainless steel case with tachymeter bezel. Reference ST105.003-65. Signed manual wind calibre 321, numbered 24957072. Black dial with luminous baton hour markers, subsidiary recorder dials to three, six and nine. Fitted to a signed stainless steel bracelet with folding clasp, reference 1035. 40mm."

Sold for £5400 on the floor but after premium £6890.

Next up Lot 58

A much cleaner example. Recently serviced and with a modern bracelet.

For some reason the price realised isn't showing up, but I seem to recall it hammering at £6,400 plus the fees landing right around £8300.

"OMEGA - a gentleman's Speedmaster "Ed White" chronograph bracelet watch. Stainless steel case with tachymeter bezel. Reference ST 105 003-65. Signed manual wind calibre 321. Black dial with luminous hour markers, subsidiary recorder dials to three, six and nine. Fitted to a signed stainless steel bracelet with folding clasp. 40mm. Service papers."

So for the collectors out there which one do you prefer? They both have issues. I think I lean towards 55 as it seems to have a rough history.

There was also a nice 1958 Railmaster that sold £5359.

"OMEGA - a gentleman's Railmaster bracelet watch. Stainless steel case. Numbered 2914-2. Signed manual wind calibre 284, numbered 16279502. Black dial with arrowhead hour markers, quarterly Arabic numerals. Fitted to an unsigned stainless steel bracelet with folding clasp. 38mm."

jaguar11 · Aug 24, 2020

I like the Railmaster!!

dootcho · Aug 24, 2020

That Railmaster wasn’t perfect (also movement pics not available) but for the price I think it was a good buy.

On the other two watches I don’t have enough expertise I can only say the length of the orange hand seems to be shorter than others that were observed in Ultramans, maybe it was trimmed, maybe it’s not an Ultraman hand, I’m not commenting on the rest of the watch (reference, dial etc..) i’m sure others can provide more valuable feedback

Best regards

jaegodylan · Aug 24, 2020

Oh yes the Ultraman hand is certainly not original nor correct.

The Railmaster was a good deal.

dootcho
That Railmaster wasn’t perfect (also movement pics not available) but for the price I think it was a good buy.

On the other two watches I don’t have enough expertise I can only say the length of the orange hand seems to be shorter than others that were observed in Ultramans, maybe it was trimmed, maybe it’s not an Ultraman hand, I’m not commenting on the rest of the watch (reference, dial etc..) i’m sure others can provide more valuable feedback

Best regards

Sherbie · Aug 24, 2020

Dont like either to be honest

jaegodylan · Aug 24, 2020

Sherbie
Dont like either to be honest

yes it was an odd auction. Loads of watches in relatively poor shape and different states of alterations and modifications. Some ghastly Rolex’s that “maybe” had third party cases.

u35rm8 · Aug 24, 2020

Sherbie
Dont like either to be honest

I agree, not what I’d go for but out of the two it would be the second Ed White

ConElPueblo · Aug 25, 2020

That Railmaster will be a tragedy to own. Rusty iron dial sloooooowly disentegrating before your eyes as the years progress...

Martin_J_N · Aug 25, 2020

Sorry but none of these appeal to me, I know that there are a good number of people out there who like vintage watches but to pay these sums for old, well used and battered watches just doesn't do it for me.

I love to see and understand the paths that watches take, the Speedmaster is a great example to read up on and understand its history, but the values that these watches sell for is mind-blowing for the condition that they are in, had I been at the auction I would have bid no more than a few cents for the lot.

We are all different and have varying likes and dislikes, I hope that those people who bought these watches enjoy them, but threads like this one make me realise this vintage scene is fascinating to observe but it's not one that I want to buy into.

mac_omega · Aug 25, 2020

Martin_J_N
Sorry but none of these appeal to me, I know that there are a good number of people out there who like vintage watches but to pay these sums for old, well used and battered watches just doesn't do it for me.

I love to see and understand the paths that watches take, the Speedmaster is a great example to read up on and understand its history, but the values that these watches sell for is mind-blowing for the condition that they are in, had I been at the auction I would have bid no more than a few cents for the lot.

We are all different and have varying likes and dislikes, I hope that those people who bought these watches enjoy them, but threads like this one make me realise this vintage scene is fascinating to observe but it's not one that I want to buy into.

To each his own
So IMO it is better for you to stay with newly bought watches

jaegodylan · Aug 25, 2020

Well the bidding started at £5k so I don't think your bid would have been considered. The point here was these weren't "great" examples but still show the strong interest in these sort of pieces.

There were some modern options in the auction as well.

This Seamaster sold for £4600 but I feel vaguely the same way towards it.. not something I would want to buy into.

I guess thats the wonder of watch collectors, to each their own.

Martin_J_N
I love to see and understand the paths that watches take, the Speedmaster is a great example to read up on and understand its history, but the values that these watches sell for is mind-blowing for the condition that they are in, had I been at the auction I would have bid no more than a few cents for the lot.

We are all different and have varying likes and dislikes, I hope that those people who bought these watches enjoy them, but threads like this one make me realise this vintage scene is fascinating to observe but it's not one that I want to buy into.

Martin_J_N · Aug 25, 2020

mac_omega
To each his own
So IMO it is better for you to stay with newly bought watches

You are so right, modern and new or nearly new is the way my collecting will go, adding my own dings, dents and scratches to my watches therefore creating my vintages is what appeals to me.

Maybe in the future someone will be bidding lots of money on my old, beat up and battered watches. 😗

Martin_J_N · Aug 25, 2020

jaegodylan
Well the bidding started at £5k so I don't think your bid would have been considered. The point here was these weren't "great" examples but still show the strong interest in these sort of pieces.

There were some modern options in the auction as well.

This Seamaster sold for £4600 but I feel vaguely the same way towards it.. not something I would want to buy into.

I guess thats the wonder of watch collectors, to each their own.

Now that has more appeal to me than the Ed White's in the auction, a rather nice watch.

u35rm8 · Aug 25, 2020

I like both modern and vintage but when it comes to buying a vintage piece I become very picky!

Two Ed Whites on the block earlier today.

jaegodylan

jaguar11

dootcho

jaegodylan

Sherbie

jaegodylan

u35rm8

ConElPueblo

Martin_J_N

mac_omega

jaegodylan

Martin_J_N

Martin_J_N

u35rm8

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