Tudor sub with presidential seal

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devnull

·Jul 17, 2015

After the last fiasco i should probably stop but now I'm at a reputable store in Tokyo looking at this piece, a Tudor reference 9411 serial 723xxx. What's the story with that dial? I can't find much info on it other than the occasional ones that shows up on Ebay for too much, which on itself sounds like a bad sign. It has the original worn band that expands. The bezel is not clicking.

There is a rolex shop down the block. If i pick it up i could have them look at it for authenticity.

 

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Maganator

·Jul 17, 2015

A quick google search throws up a couple of them listed on ebay (historically) but I can't find any more information on them than that.

 

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Togri v. 2.0

·Jul 17, 2015·Wow! Custom title... cool

Aftermarket dial?

 

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devnull

·Jul 17, 2015

But by whom? Back in the day this wasn't the cheapest watch to go redialing wily-nilly.

 

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devnull

·Jul 17, 2015

Bump.

Isn't it weird that there seems to be a number of these floating around and nobody seems to know their origin?

 

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Togri v. 2.0

·Jul 17, 2015·Wow! Custom title... cool

Lots of aftermarket dials for Rolexes

 

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persco

·Jul 17, 2015

A similar one came up a year ago for discussion at WUS and most thought it was fake. The dial looks a little pristine to me to be genuine

 

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Togri v. 2.0

·Jul 17, 2015·Wow! Custom title... cool

Layout of dial also looks weird. Hour hand covering little bit of hour marker instead of either not overlap or overlap completely.

 

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dsio

·Jul 17, 2015·Ash @ ΩF

Aftermarket (or more accurately counterfeit) junk dial, there are tons of them pouring out of Asia

 

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devnull

·Jul 17, 2015

How hard would it be to find the correct dial?

This is in Ginza. If i buy it i can walk it to the nearest rolex shop to verify the case and movement.

 

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donkii

·Jul 17, 2015

As some of you already pointed out. A fake dial with "baked" lume on hands and dial. If the price is right, buy it and replace the dial and hands 😀 If you like it as it is, buy it and wear it. Good luck.

 

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donkii

·Jul 17, 2015

devnull

How hard would it be to find the correct dial?

This is in Ginza. If i buy it i can walk it to the nearest rolex shop to verify the case and movement.

Not that hard. A simple WTB on VRF will give you some emails.

 

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dsio

·Jul 17, 2015·Ash @ ΩF

Dial and hands are a dud, bezel isn't original either, the movement even if correct in these is just an ETA anyway, so you'll be buying the watch effectively for its case from a dealer at full watch prices.

 

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omitohud

·Jul 18, 2015

Run

 

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Linesiders

·Jul 21, 2015·Stripers, not snook.

Case is fake too - I think the whole thing is garbage - sorry to tell you - run far and fast.

 

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Wing Zero

·Jul 21, 2015

Bezel and Insert are fake
Crown is fake
Can't tell if the case is fake unless you post a shot of the serial and Ref # between the lugs
Is that at rivet bracelet on there?
Looks like 19mm End Links...

 

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nickioa

·Jul 21, 2015

Doesn't look right to me.

 

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Linesiders

·Jul 21, 2015·Stripers, not snook.

Top of the crown guards is wrong - nothing else to see / need. This particular one has been on Ebay before - from Japan IIRC.