Tudor Black Bay Black vs Black Bay 58

Posts
11,217
Likes
19,660
Up to now I've only owned vintage watches, but I'm planning on buying a modern diver shortly. The front runners at the minute are Submariner 114060, a minter 14060m, a Seamaster 2254.50, Seamaster 300 Master Coaxial or a Tudor Black Bay.

As a result I called into the local AD to try on a Black Bay. Coincidentally, as well as the standard in-house BB, they also had dummy versions of the 58 and GMT available to view. For some reason I neglected to take a picture of the GMT but here is the BB Black (top) and 58 (bottom).

I have to say the standard BB is very thick, especially if you're used to vintage. However, it somehow manages to still sit nicely on the wrist and doesn't 'wear thick'. The 58 however is stunning. It lacks the anodised crown tube and the bezel markings are ' gilt' rather than white. I have a reasonably thick wrist but even on me, the slimmer/smaller case still looks amazing. The off white lume is also not as visibly yellow as that on the Seamaster 300 Master Coax. I can see the 58 being a winner for plenty who want a modern watch with vintage proportions.

Edited:
 
Posts
1,706
Likes
5,681
Very cool! A trip to the local Tudor AD is in my future. And for what it’s worth, from the pictures and for my personal experience, the 58 wins hands down!
 
Posts
1,589
Likes
5,742
Looks very good, David !

They are built like Tanks…
 
Posts
2,510
Likes
3,727
I wish the GMT were built on the 58 platform rather than the regular BB.
 
Posts
807
Likes
8,957
Same thoughts--I have a request in for the '58, supposed to be mid-late summer delivery...very much like the feel, wear and size.
 
Posts
1,228
Likes
3,791
You wouldn't think 2mm difference (in both dimensions) would matter a whole lot but the difference is striking! Love the gilt print on the 58. Very James Bond (Sean Connery Bond, that is). 👍
 
Posts
1,560
Likes
4,416
I sold my BB red after a couple of years of happy ownership because after going 100% vintage, I felt like the case was too thick. What I found beautiful at first, became a thing I couldn't stand anymore.
I've tried the 58 on, and boy is it a beautiful watch. I can't see why anyone would buy a submariner anymore to be totally honest, apart from the fact that it says Rolex on it... Perfect size and proportions, 3 grand, a real legacy behind it...
I would consider getting one but I already have a vacation watch (guess what? It's a submariner ::facepalm1::)
 
Posts
2,707
Likes
17,390
They both look good with my preference being the 58.
 
Posts
307
Likes
566
I think Tudor have totally nailed it with the 58...
 
Posts
65
Likes
150
WANT. For us with slightly challenged wrist sizes, the BB58 is pretty exciting. Can't wait to try one on and may have to give up my Seamaster 300M which barely fits on my 6.25" wrist for this. Does anyone know what the lug to lug distance is for the BB58?
 
Posts
11,217
Likes
19,660
The 58 is stunning, no doubt. The reduced diameter and thickness improve it hugely. It also doesn't have the anodised crown tube which some disliked.

However, I'm not sold on the extra 'gilt' they've added to the bezel. I prefer the original with white font rather than the gold on the 58.

That's kind of the issue with all the reissue watches for me, whether it's the Seamaster MC 300, or the Tudor BB Black/58. They just slightly overdo something. I have no issues with slightly off white lume, or a bit of gilt, but in one way they all fall ever so slightly short.

The Seamaster 300 MC has lume that is slightly too 'aged', the Black Bay Black is too thick and large and the 58 just slightly overdoes the gilt.

I need to try the 58 and 300 MC on again as I much prefer watches without crown guards.

Or maybe find a mint 14060m.
 
Posts
267
Likes
302
Can't go wrong with either. The new gmts are also stunning...
 
Posts
13
Likes
20
Up to now I've only owned vintage watches, but I'm planning on buying a modern diver shortly. The front runners at the minute are Submariner 114060, a minter 14060m, a Seamaster 2254.50, Seamaster 300 Master Coaxial or a Tudor Black Bay.

As a result I called into the local AD to try on a Black Bay. Coincidentally, as well as the standard in-house BB, they also had dummy versions of the 58 and GMT available to view. For some reason I neglected to take a picture of the GMT but here is the BB Black (top) and 58 (bottom).

I have to say the standard BB is very thick, especially if you're used to vintage. However, it somehow manages to still sit nicely on the wrist and doesn't 'wear thick'. The 58 however is stunning. It lacks the anodised crown tube and the bezel markings are ' gilt' rather than white. I have a reasonably thick wrist but even on me, the slimmer/smaller case still looks amazing. The off white lume is also not as visibly yellow as that on the Seamaster 300 Master Coax. I can see the 58 being a winner for plenty who want a modern watch with vintage proportions.

Here is the GMT. I like the 58 but I prefer the Rose ETA BBBlk.
 
Posts
2,847
Likes
11,806
The gmt is stunning and actually does not wear that big. I do like the look of the 58. I have the gmt, but may have to get this too.

Does anyone know if they use a different bracelet? I assume so given the 2mm size diff.
 
Posts
582
Likes
815
I’m putting a deposit down on BB58 next week, my local AD already has 3 deposits that have been left!! Did somebody say waiting list!!! Hahaha.
 
Posts
1,440
Likes
3,771
Some web reviews were saying that BB58 is a closest thing to vintage Rolex you can get now on the market, without spending a small country's budget on it. Really nice watch.
 
Posts
328
Likes
747
I must admit, I do really like the 58 and think it is a stunning watch but personally I would be trying to get the BBBB Black Bay Bronze Blue special edition from Bucherer. I believe it was the same price initially as the normal Heritage but a limited edition. Not sure if you can still get one.

Something to consider
 
Posts
1,294
Likes
2,290
i am basically done with new watches, and i Just ordered a BB58. if its what it appears to be, i will sell my speedmaster gemini IV LE to fund it. seems like the perfect go anywhere watch that i don't have to worry about like i do vintage