Hi guys,

So I've finally managed to get a speedmaster and a professional due to a lot of members who discourage me from buying an Japanese automatic version of the speedmaster.

I bought it on ebay, so I think many of you have seen it, and thought that it was a neglected piece of S.... Speedmaster.
On that I agree, but since I love restoring things, from cars and gearboxes to old houses.
I think that's the one for me.

I didn't like:
lugs states
dirty as hell
bezel got a "ding"
dial has marker all over the place
the second hand isn't correct
it hasn't any bracelet(which for me isn't a problem, I hate omega bracelet comfort unlike my titanium seiko bracelet)
no service history

I love the fact that
it was a transitional model with a 861 which makes it so much cheaper!
it nearly match my moon crater box. (if it has the First notification of the moon landing I would have a match)
it shows sign of usage and that I don't need to take a lot of care wearing it.
The price
The fact that my girlfriend likes it more then my 10$ vintage citizen
(obviously I omitted to tell her the cost of it)



Updated pics will be provided with brand new ZRC Brown calf strap tomorrow

 

Hi MSNWatch, cicindela,

I agree with the hand of the seconds.

Ofrei has three different ref that could fit to 861, do you think the 14mm is the correct one?
Genuine Omega Sweep Second Hand Cal 861 14 mm HAN-4116

Do you think that it's preferable to change all the hands at the same time since they are replacement ones, and try to match their colors to the watch with tea or "cooking"? or just change the hand of the seconds and try these techniques also on this one?

Cleaning has been done, wash, will maybe done by an AD when replacing the hand with sealing ring
Cleaning the dial, I hope this can be done, otherwise i will let just like this, the lume that has moved doesn't move at all now.
And the dial is a bit offset, since the T swiss made T is only appearing like this: _ _ _ _ _ _

Thank's cicindela, MSNWatch for your advice

 

hi Julien, a lovly used working horse. Isnt it that, what makes this watches so outstanding? They look good, no matter if brand new or second hand
I would change the crystal, as it looks not like the right thing for a 145.022. The inner ring should not be silver but black and leave enough space to read the T swiss made T.
Fitting dials come up from time to time in very nice condition!

 

I haven't thought about this,
What is strange is that there is plenty of space on the top of the dial and none at the bottom.
On closer look, I think that it's a retaining ring that goes over the swiss made, it's diffcult to see with the glass . By the way it's a enuine one 'cause I saw the little Omega on it.
I will try to find a ref of the correct crystal.
thank's for the idea

 

I think that I will order one of these correct "rings" , but can't see where it is in ofrei....

 

yep, as Steve said, they come with the crystal. At ofrei the right thing for you is OME PW-5139

 

She is a nice old workhorse isn't she? Just for my own education, shouldn't a transitional Speedie have an applied Omega symbol on the dial with an 861 movement and dot over 90 bezel? In no way criticising the OPs watch because the caseback is certainly correct for a transitional but I'm just a tad confused!

 

The Bezel is the right for a 145.022 from 1969. The dial might be indeed a later one as usually the 69 dials have the strong step like the 145.012. And yes, some of the so called transitional dials show the applied logo but already the shorter indexes. I have one unmounted and it is of poor quality in terms of finish.

 

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here is maddox's website point of view:
http://www.chronomaddox.com/omega/articles/ginos_bezels/ginos_bezels.html

And after looking at transition models, the dial step doesn't seems as neat as others.
So probably a replacement with poor quality on the lume. strange thing is that they are only missing on the left part of the watch. Does this watch has been exposed to sun in half?

 

Yep, that was what I thought originally. That's why this one being called a transitional confused me a bit. I have what is considered the transitional Speedie as pictured below. I just wasn't sure whether a printed Omega symbol dial fit the transitional definition.

 

Wheels, your dial is neither a transitional but a 145.012 step. The transitional shothe still the applied logo but already the short 5-minute-indexes. Besides that for me the transitional is the one with the provisory first-watch-on-moon engravement Which was sold only in 1969.
Cheers

 

I thought that the transition model was the one that go from 321 parts to 861 before moon landing writings, because for me the caseback First watch on moon is a fully fledge 861.

 

Agreed Julien. Pre moon caseback, 861 movement, applied Omega dial and dot over 90 bezel. These are all the indicators of a Speedmaster transitional.