Tiny fiddly crown: how do you wind it?!

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Hi All

Got this gorgeous 165.002 which shares a crown and case with many other late 1960s references.



Now I'm used to all kinds of watches, old and new, but the crown on this is tiny -- very hard to grasp and even harder to turn. It's just so darn fiddly. Best I can manage is a sort of back-and-forth twiddle.

I have several watches and like to give them all a go on my wrist; my normal practice with automatics that have run down is to "charge" the mainspring with maybe 20 to 30 turns before putting it on and letting the rotor take over.

Is there a knack to these? Or is it just a design flaw? (Well, maybe not a flaw: I guess whoever came up with this pinhead crown wasn't thinking of people like me and assumed it would be rarely used, and mostly only for setting the hands to correct the time once in a while.)

Thanks
 
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I do a back and forth winding with the side of my index finger behind the crown and the pad of my thumb on the front. It may help that I am a small guy with correspondingly small fingers.
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That's not a tiny crown - try this one on a 1966 cal 561 case 1685004.



Seriously, I also find these tiny crowns irritating to use, even though they look good. I just use my finger nails to get the movement started then rely on the auto movement.

The slim decagonal crown on earlier Constellations is also a challenge.

I suspect that a lot of the vintage watches we see with larger crowns than originally fitted (especially on manual movements) are that way because their owners asked their watchmaker to change them up to size they could use more readily.
 
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I don’t get this tiny crown hard to wind thing.

I can palm a basketball and don’t have any issues.
 
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Is also possible that a watchmaker may ease the rotation of the stem, may be clean and lubricate, or check the friction of o-rings inside crown
 
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This is the way it's done in Australia...

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its all about the right technique

That's what she said. Just before she left me.
 
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its all about the right technique

That's what she said. Just before she left me.


I just use my finger nails to get started then rely on the auto movement..


You should have no problems if you simply rub gently backwards and forwards with the outside of your index finger.

Although I’ve found that it can become a little sore if you do it a lot.