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  1. Expta

    Expta Jan 14, 2020

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    I obtained this purportedly genuine Omega ref 98000008 20mm x 16mm alligator strap, but I'm not sure it's genuine. The leather looks and feels fine, but the stamps on that back don't match most other photos I've seen.

    The Omega stamp on the back is only on one side and runs horizontally. Most other photos have the number 62 stamp, instead of 63 on this strap. I'm not sure what that number represents. I assume JBB is the "maker's mark" initials?

    I'm certain the deployment clasp is aftermarket. It uses a friction plate to stay closed, instead of pushers and the inside is stamped, "ACIER INOX" (stainless steel in French) near the end of the strap.

    I'm very interested to get your thoughts. Thank you.

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  2. Luca.P

    Luca.P Jan 14, 2020

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    I have never concerned myself with leather straps but just by googling this strap for a few seconds I think I can pretty confidentally say its not a genuine Omega strap. If you just look at the way the holes are stamped on yours and compare it to a genuine one there is a huge difference, the genuine ones are very clean and yours look very badly made, no hole even resembles a perfect circle and the leather is torn in all of them. The stamping on yours also doesn´t seem of very good quality. I will add that I probably don´t know more about this than you do and these are just my two cents. Hope I could help.
    Cheers!
     
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  3. Expta

    Expta Jan 14, 2020

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    Thanks, I've seen that before in my attempts to validate this strap. I also saw this one listed on a Rolex site that looks very much like the one I have, but used. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=545979

    The 98000008 strap has been around for a while. I'm wondering if mine might be an older version?
     
  4. Luca.P

    Luca.P Jan 14, 2020

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    Yeah but when a strap is used, only one or two holes show wear because the size of your wrist doesn‘t change. In the photo of the rolexforum two holes look worn but the other ones all look fine and well made. In your case all of the holes look in equally bad shape which would lead me to conclude that its not a sign of wear but of bad quality
     
  5. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Jan 14, 2020

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    The clasp looks right. The older ones weren't pushbutton, those came later. It has the two pins that retain the strap, whereas the newer clasps only have one pin.

    I'm not willing to say that the strap is definitively right or wrong. It looks plausible, and Omega doesn't make these, they're made by contractors. So, you'll see some variation between them. I was a "victim" of that with a 245 strap that was made by one contractor that was pretty bad.

    If it fits and you want to wear it, by all means do so.

    Tom
     
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  6. Expta

    Expta Jan 14, 2020

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    Interesting. I sure wish I could authenticate it. I paid $245 for it with the clasp and I have the right to return it within 14 days.
     
  7. Evitzee

    Evitzee Jan 14, 2020

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    Does it really make all that much difference? If it wasn't genuine Omega what is the combo worth? It looks to be of pretty good quality. If the quality is good, whether or not it is genuine Omega wouldn't concern me that much. It's all about the quality.
     
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  8. Luca.P

    Luca.P Jan 15, 2020

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    Yeah i totally agree with that. I would never buy an Omega strap just because it says Omega on it. The only thing that really matters in that department is if the quality of the strap is right for the price, so if you feel you didn‘t overpay for the strap I wouldn‘t think about it too much.
     
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  9. Expta

    Expta Jan 15, 2020

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    Just trying to keep it all "genuine", I guess.
     
  10. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Jan 15, 2020

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    For what it's worth I still believe it's real. Packaging is right. It was even recently manufactured!

    Tom
     
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  11. Martin_F

    Martin_F Jan 15, 2020

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    For $245 you could have almost bought it from Omega directly.
    I payed $300 for a Railmaster strap including buckle not too long ago.
     
  12. Expta

    Expta Jan 15, 2020

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    Yeah, $610 for the strap and buckle from the AB in San Francisco, so I think this is a pretty good deal.
     
  13. ext1

    ext1 Jan 15, 2020

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    Hmm... I say fake because the deployant is the old friction snap style, I know because I have one of those. And they have markings, while this one has no markings.
     
  14. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Jan 15, 2020

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    You can clearly see the part number in the first picture. Can't see the date code on the clasp package, but it wouldn't necessarily have identical marking as the first few runs in the 90s.

    Tom
     
  15. ext1

    ext1 Jan 15, 2020

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    Ok so after diving into my parts bin... I realized I gave away my deployant some time ago but I still had the fake one.

    So on inspection I'd say I'm more inclined to say that's a real part IMO.. because of the size of the trapezoid connector piece and by the way how the pins are finished.

    From the angles of the pics, even the real part's markings cannot be shown, because the markings are on the open side.

    Here are some old pics of the clasp while I still had it 83109543_531702651024595_1010935151430991872_n.jpg 82444894_469654643720681_1353705504798408704_n.jpg
     
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