Thoughts on this 3590.50?

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In my still-beginning search for what I guess is now considered 'neo-vintage' - a wearer-grade Speedy Pro for 4k or under. I like challenges and watches with character, so it seems a sane goal to me anyway 馃榿

The one below is currently held by the second owner and although it has definitely been polished polished had a full service and bracelet refin by Nesbits in '12 when the current owner purchased it from the original owner (supposedly).

Watch, full bracelet, and service receipt from Nesbits. Aprox. mid 1990s production. They might have the original box and are currently looking; mvm't shots not available at present unfortunately. Looks like it MAY have some service parts, but that may just be my eyes and limited Speedmaster knowledge, so as usual I turn to the gurus here on OF - what do you fine folk think of the example below?

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As always, much obliged for any thoughts!
 
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Given the bracelet, I wonder if this is a transitional 3570.50 (still with tritium) rather than a 3590.50? It would be interesting to see whether the movement is a 861 or 1861. In any case, the bezel appears appropriate for a 3570.50 but not a 3590.50.

At first glance I thought the hands might be service replacements, but now I'm more concerned of tritium flaking around the minute hand, which would personally be a turn off for me and has fairly significant cost implications if you want to replace.
 
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Not enough photos to properly assess, but finding a very good example of a 3590.50 at under 4K in the current environment would be quite a feat IMO. Given that it鈥檚 the last of the tritium Speedmasters, prices for this reference have really shot up over the past year.
 
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I tend to agree with both of the above, and the seller did confirm that the hands are indeed flaking. The flaking doesn't bother me per se, but the potential costs down the road are as noted not insignificant.

On the other hand I can't find anything to indicate any outright incorrectness or illegitimacy, so given the way they have trended am wondering if it might be worthwhile regardless of that. 馃槦

The bezel does throw me, however this one new pic seems to indicate the 861 and jibes with other I've seen known to be 'correct' from the mid-90s - so maybe a transitional piece with the 3570.50 bezel? This one is becoming a head scratcher for this armchair enthusiast...

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When in doubt, keep looking. It鈥檚 a 3590.50, not a 105.003 or a 105.012. There are still plenty of fully original 3590.50鈥檚 from which to choose.
 
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When in doubt, keep looking. It鈥檚 a 3590.50, not a 105.003 or a 105.012. There are still plenty of fully original 3590.50鈥檚 from which to choose.

Unless I can get a mvm't pic and some better macro shots, thinking I'll go this route - I'm not in a hurry to buy, but always appreciate the extra eyes! 馃榾
 
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Unless I can get a mvm't pic and some better macro shots, thinking I'll go this route - I'm not in a hurry to buy, but always appreciate the extra eyes! 馃榾
Agreed. The flaking lume, as long as it鈥檚 caught early, can be dealt with by having a competent watchmaker apply a binder to the back of the hands to prevent further deterioration. Another option is the have the lume replaced with superluminova and color matched to the tritium dial indices. It detracts from the originality of the watch, of course, but it can be very attractive when competently restored.
 
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Agreed. The flaking lume, as long as it鈥檚 caught early, can be dealt with by having a competent watchmaker apply a binder to the back of the hands to prevent further deterioration. Another option is the have the lume replaced with superluminova and color matched to the tritium dial indices. It detracts from the originality of the watch, of course, but it can be very attractive when competently restored.

Funny running across your own watch! Was just searching around for suggestions on how to deal with my flaking lume and came across this thread. Do you have a suggestion for a watchmaker who could either stabilize these hands or color match new hands?
I had casually shopped the watch around, but have had a change of heart and plan to hold on to it for a while longer, so I figure its time for servicing again. I've spoken to a couple watchmakers who both suggested just replacing the hands with new luminova hands. Obviously trying to avoid that route so might as well as the question.


Looking at the thread above - also curious what makes the bezel seem out of place? Only service parts to my knowledge are the crown and pushers which were replaced by Nesbits (who noted that it was a caliber 861 on their timegrapher printout fwiw)