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Thinking about this Cartier...

  1. ClarendonVintage Nov 27, 2017

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    First of all I hope this is the right place to talk about a Must de Cartier:)

    Anyway I was thinking of bidding on a black dial Must de Cartier and have been searching high and low online on the originality of its dial.

    Here is the proposed target:

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    Any thoughts on this? Thanks
     
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  2. tyrantlizardrex Nov 27, 2017

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    Goldplate over silver... quartz movement... 1980s/1990s... small.
     
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  3. ICONO Nov 27, 2017

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    That example is a bit ‘tatty’ ……and small

    I have an early 90’s steel Pasha Automatic……lovely accurate Watch, & even at 38mm wears much bigger
     
  4. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Nov 27, 2017

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    In person that missing Gold plate on the lugs is going to look like poop.

    Pass
     
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  5. ClarendonVintage Nov 27, 2017

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    Hmm although the auctioneer has described it as a manual movement cal 78-1...
     
  6. tyrantlizardrex Nov 27, 2017

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    In that case, that’s what it is... I was having a guess based on what 90% of them that come to market contain. ;)

    This is the one at Fellows isn’t it?

    It’s cheap because it’s well worn... and with 27.6% on top it’s not that cheap.
     
  7. rolokr Nov 27, 2017

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    Who would want an old worn out Cartier de must ? There are a lot of nice steel and solid gold watches out there, why waste your time with this one ???
     
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  8. Canuck Nov 27, 2017

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    Notice the one arm of the V in VII (7) has the tiny imprint of the CARTIER name. I’d suggest the dial is original. This watch appears to have been rode hard and put away wet. If I wanted a Cartier, and this was the last one on earth, I wouldn’t take it it was free! Buffing will only make the cosmetic damage worse.
     
  9. ClarendonVintage Nov 27, 2017

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    All valid points...I suppose I am too eager for a first Cartier
     
  10. rolokr Nov 27, 2017

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    Vintage Cartier were outsourced European Watch Co. Jaeger Lecoultre, etc... Cartier can be nice. , but NOT that commercial crap, I' surprised they even put there name on that !
     
  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Nov 27, 2017

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    Vintage Cartier is beyond nice. But Must de Cartier is a downmarket line, specifically created to move volume at low prices. Zero collector value, and definitely a second (or even third) class Cartier. And this example is in sad shape, as has been observed. Move on.
     
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  12. satiriadis Dec 10, 2017

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    You're better off waiting for another example. This one is in a really rough shape.
     
  13. ICONO Dec 10, 2017

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    My 38mm Steel Cartier Pasha ( ETA Movement )

    Classic Cartier styling, very wearable, bought new over 20 years ago

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  14. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Dec 10, 2017

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    I want to hate this. But it’s so Bat shit crazy of a mix up it works. If you described this no one would believe you that it works.
     
  15. ICONO Dec 10, 2017

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    Large dark blue cabachon on the crown, as well !!

    Originally lume plots were green......now ageing nicely to Yellow
     
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  16. ClarendonVintage Dec 10, 2017

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    Very unique...i am unfamiliar with cartier men watches outside of tank though