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The Zenith Flagship Pulls In

  1. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 3, 2012

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    Zenith's caliber 135 is probably the most revered movement in the Zenith stable. Designed for observatory competition, the 135 took first almost right out of the box, for five years running.

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    In 1958, Zenith launched a new product line specifically to house the holy 135, and called it the Port Royal, after a convent school that was the apogee of french enlightenment learning - pretty heady stuff.

    The watch itself is designed to be impressive. It's large 36mm are mostly due to a very thick walled and heavy gold case. The impression is ingot-like. While the dial may be fussy, the case is not - its just massive.

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    The dial actually has a bit of an avant-garde feel, the usual concentricities broken up by a rhomboid shape emphasizing the 3-6-9-12

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    It's not easy to photograph, being both convex and reflective, and me being too lazy to set up my light box. The lugs are interesting too, being semi-hooded. You'll have to take my word for it.

    The movement is...well, I never see the 135 without being impressed by the large balance, the swooping cutouts of the bridges, that lovely Zenith snail cam regulator, the cotes de geneve...

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    Now, a question to the forum cognoscenti: The dial veneer on this watch has obviously discolored. Someone started to clean it off between 12 and 2 o'clock but then got bored or thought the better of it.

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    Better to finish the job or leave as is?
     
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  2. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Dec 3, 2012

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    So you won that one!:thumbsup:::love::
     
  3. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Dec 3, 2012

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    Gorgeous watch
     
  4. ulackfocus Dec 3, 2012

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    I'd leave it as is. If you remove the finish it will look better temporarily, but it's gotta cause some degredation later down the line.

    Nice one dude!
     
  5. Veritas99 Dec 3, 2012

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    Wonderful pick up. Tough call on the dial. My inclination is to leave it, but it would constantly bug me to look down and see the discoloration.
     
  6. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 4, 2012

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    Glorious. Just glorious. But would someone please explain to LouS that this book is not a mail-order catalog:

    Not a Mail-Order Catalog

    Please stop treating it as such :).

    I would be beyond careful with that dial. Is that part just shiny gold, or is there some lacquer that will need to be stripped and reapplied? I'm thinking the latter, no? This is not a glaring imperfection to me. It's a beautiful watch, and a less-than-masterful attempt at restoration could have tragic consequences, I think. Maybe if you found some old grandmaster redialer from Zenith's old supplier... but I'd check him for tremors first.
     
  7. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Dec 4, 2012

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    I have a few vintage omegas that have aged original dials but have chosen to leave them alone - too much risk even in the hands of a very experienced redialer. That would be my advice here - leave well enough alone.
     
  8. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 4, 2012

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    I think we have consensus

    Happily, the difference is not all that great in person.

    It would have been nice to get the full visual impact of the piece by seeing the dial without the slight color change of the veneer, but I think I will leave it alone...
     
  9. John Chris Il Duca de Luca Dec 4, 2012

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    You dunnit again, Lou! Congratulations on a noble acquisition. As far as the dial is concerned I'd leave well enough alone right now, but with an ear ever open to appropriate expertise, should someone with such turn up. My thumb is up, dude!
     
  10. Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Dec 7, 2012

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    We really should coordinate this rather than bidding against each other. The thing that concerned me more was the reason for the scratching around the jewel on the train bridge.
     
  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Dec 7, 2012

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    Yes, I did note the signs of struggle around that jewel, as if someone had trained an Aberdeen terrier for jewel removal. There has also been some repair and dial scoring around the pinion of the second hand. In addition, the watch had an inscription on the back which has been removed reasonably well, but not so well that signs of the removal are invisible. It has issues, but I'm too impatient to wait for the next Port Royal to hit the 'bay (watch it happen next week).
     
  12. John Chris Il Duca de Luca Dec 7, 2012

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    Given that the last one I saw sell on Chrono24 was asking >$10,000, I think you were wise to go for it!
     
  13. ulackfocus Dec 7, 2012

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    It will. :p You know as well as I do how the Watch Gods work.
     
  14. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Dec 7, 2012

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    I foolishly sold my only zenith a few years ago - a stainless steel port royal 135.
     
  15. John Chris Il Duca de Luca Dec 7, 2012

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    ::blowup::
     
  16. MMMD unaffiliated curmudgeonly absurdist & polyologist Dec 7, 2012

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    Dibs on the immaculate gold Port Royal 135 hitting the 'bay next week!